2012 election pregame

triggercut · 2012-11-01T03:44:08.000Z

Joe Scarborough calling the race a tossup and saying “No one knows anything.” Nate Silver, ever the poker player, pushes his chips into the pot:

Nate Silver ‏@fivethirtyeight

.@JoeNBC: If you think it’s a toss-up, let’s bet. If Obama wins, you donate $1,000 to the American Red Cross. If Romney wins, I do. Deal?

dfs · 2012-11-01T07:15:50.000Z

triggercut:

Joe Scarborough calling the race a tossup and saying “No one knows anything.” Nate Silver, ever the poker player, pushes his chips into the pot:

Nate Silver ‏@fivethirtyeight

.@JoeNBC: If you think it’s a toss-up, let’s bet. If Obama wins, you donate $1,000 to the American Red Cross. If Romney wins, I do. Deal?

bah. Nate’s too smart to make that interesting. Never bet what you can’t afford to lose.

rhinohelix · 2012-11-01T07:22:00.000Z

triggercut:

Joe Scarborough calling the race a tossup and saying “No one knows anything.” Nate Silver, ever the poker player, pushes his chips into the pot:

Nate Silver ‏@fivethirtyeight

.@JoeNBC: If you think it’s a toss-up, let’s bet. If Obama wins, you donate $1,000 to the American Red Cross. If Romney wins, I do. Deal?

Joe may still be trying to pay off campaign debts from the Gingrich Republican Revolution.

A good write-up of the polling data from the ® perspective (partisan warning) is Battleground Watch. The second item today is a long analysis of the candidates’ travel schedules up to Election Day.

WarrenM · 2012-11-01T07:35:34.000Z

triggercut:

Perhaps more importantly, though, was Obama dominating this news cycle because of Hurricane Sandy. All 3 major nets and CNN played it leading on newscasts through the night, and Obama side-by-side with Chris Christie and comforting victims could play big with very late breakers.

Heard an interview with some random Joe from a Republican meeting or whatever and it’s amazing to listen to people sometimes. The guy was talking about this Christie/Obama stuff and his quote was something like, “I wish Christie would tone down his effusive praise for Obama for simply doing HIS JOB.” Really? I mean … really?!

MrGrumpy · 2012-11-01T07:40:39.000Z

rhinohelix:

Joe may still be trying to pay off campaign debts from the Gingrich Republican Revolution.

A good write-up of the polling data from the ® perspective (partisan warning) is Battleground Watch. The second item today is a long analysis of the candidates’ travel schedules up to Election Day.

To which I offer this.

One thing I will agree on: This election can’t get over soon enough.

Telefrog · 2012-11-01T07:51:47.000Z

The Freepers and their ilk have been going nuts over Christie’s praise of Obama.

Christie is only praising Obama because the president secretly threatened to withold federal relief.
Christie has always hated Romney because Mitt just isn’t a true working class patriot. Besides, Mitt’s going to win anyway, so no harm no foul.
Christie is a traitor and deserves GOP scorn. His career is over.

I guess Governor Christie and President Obama just couldn’t possibly be able to set aside their personal feelings about each other to handle the more important business of getting NJ to recover.

spiffy · 2012-11-01T08:02:14.000Z

WarrenM:

Heard an interview with some random Joe from a Republican meeting or whatever and it’s amazing to listen to people sometimes. The guy was talking about this Christie/Obama stuff and his quote was something like, “I wish Christie would tone down his effusive praise for Obama for simply doing HIS JOB.” Really? I mean … really?!

I think his context was, why heap praise on actions that fall within the normal scope of the job, like heaping praise on a policeman for walking his beat, or something.

WarrenM · 2012-11-01T08:05:22.000Z

spiffy

I get that. I still think that if Christie is impressed with the support he got, there’s nothing wrong with praising Obama for it. It was the tone in the guys voice that annoyed me more than anything else.

Besides, people routinely thank firemen who drag them out of burning buildings. Why? The guy is just doing his job.

Clay · 2012-11-01T08:10:29.000Z

spiffy:

I think his context was, why heap praise on actions that fall within the normal scope of the job, like heaping praise on a policeman for walking his beat, or something.

Handling a massive storm event may be part of his job, but it’s not an everyday part of his job. The equivalent would be heaping praise on a policeman who got into a shootout with 15 gang members and handled it well. It’s the policeman’s job to handle that type of thing – that doesn’t mean it’s not an extraordinary event.

spiffy · 2012-11-01T08:18:49.000Z

Hey, I agree with you. We obviously know why he’s taking that stance, politics. Just saying it’s not surprising.

Two_Sheds · 2012-11-01T08:31:46.000Z

Just a note: I sincerely hope that the use of the “word” “Mittmentum” within the last couple of pages was done in jest or with a sense of irony. Otherwise you can go right to hell.

Murbella · 2012-11-01T08:32:06.000Z

Don’t thank the military, they are just doing their job?

Pretty stupid point of view. We’ve certainly seen how the government can fail in disaster relief …

peterb · 2012-11-01T08:34:03.000Z

spiffy:

I think his context was, why heap praise on actions that fall within the normal scope of the job, like heaping praise on a policeman for walking his beat, or something.

…because we have a counterexample, in Katrina and George Bush, of what happens when the federal government sits around sucking their own…thumbs.

Supersport · 2012-11-01T08:56:10.000Z

CNNMoney

Hiring jumps in October, according to ADP; initial claims fall

Private sector hiring jumped 158,000 in October, according to a report released Thursday by payroll processor ADP. Newly formulated jobs report provides more insight into the labor market.

Can we put this to rest now? How many months does this make?

Hugin · 2012-11-01T08:59:41.000Z

Andy Bates:

I just think it’s funny that everyone was posting about polls for a while…then after the first debate, suddenly no one posted anything about polls for a while. And now, suddenly people want to talk about polls again. I guess we’ll know in a few days.

Actually after the debate there was a lot of poll talk, it was just people being panicky and depressed. What there wasn’t was a bunch of people denying the accuracy of the polls or the sexual orientation of the pollsters.

Two_Sheds · 2012-11-01T09:02:46.000Z

Supersport:

http://money.cnn.com/2012/11/01/news/economy/adp-jobs-initial-claims/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Can we put this to rest now? How many months does this make?

I heard that this isn’t what a real recovery looks like. I’m not sure what that means, but I prefer things to be real.

Scuzz · 2012-11-01T09:08:37.000Z

A headline in the paper had the parties and PACS spending $850 million so far in this election. Imagine if that money was spent for good, and not for evil.

BrianRubin · 2012-11-01T09:12:13.000Z

Scuzz:

A headline in the paper had the parties and PACS spending $850 million so far in this election. Imagine if that money was spent for good, and not for evil.

Thank you. Whenever I hear about how much money was spent on this election, I always wonder what it’d be like if that money went to awesome places like schools and the like.

Dave_Markell · 2012-11-01T09:13:33.000Z

WarrenM:

Heard an interview with some random Joe from a Republican meeting or whatever and it’s amazing to listen to people sometimes. The guy was talking about this Christie/Obama stuff and his quote was something like, “I wish Christie would tone down his effusive praise for Obama for simply doing HIS JOB.” Really? I mean … really?!

The only one we should praise is Brownie, who was doing a heck of a job.

WarrenM · 2012-11-01T09:15:03.000Z

I get that feeling from a lot of things. My wife likes to make me watch a show called Million Dollar Rooms and while it’s impressive at times, whenever someone starts going on about the $15 million worth of Italian limestone making up the floors of their house cost that they shipped from Italy, I just … I dunno. How much good could you do with that money rather than putting it into your floor stones? I know rich people aren’t obligated to help anyone it’s just something I think about.