But EITHER WAY we are NOT going to spend the next 100 posts talking about how Hillary lost, right guys?
Guys?
GUYS?!
kerzain
4615
Maybe we can talk about her book instead.
I’d like to discuss her emails and/or Benghazi.
Congressional campaigns aren’t quite like national political campaigns, though. Retail campaigning is more effective in that setting. The candidate can still do events, town halls, interviews with local media and generally keep pushing their name into the local cycles.
And it’s just the national folks pulling out. You’d hope that there’s still a little money left in the candidate’s funding pool just in case. The kind of TV buys done from that national level are typically most effective at name recognition. A guy like Richard Ojeda in the West Virginia 3rd could probably use that kind of exposure.
There’s no incumbent Democratic senator in bigger trouble in 2018 than Heidi Heitkamp in North Dakota.
But her opponent has been giving her Todd Akin-style gifts this week.
Timex
4619
Here’s the thing that a lot of folks don’t get:
For some massive amount of the population, that argument resonates.
As tragic as it is, up until REALLY freaking recently, that’s how people behaved in our country. Not just monstrous abusers… but really a ton of folks. Maybe we didn’t, given a bunch of of were geeks, but as Trigger pointed out, the kind of behavior we’re talking about was effectively a trope. It was accepted by society. Hell, on some fucked up level, it’s how folks were expected to behave.
So now, there are a bunch of old folks who grew up in those conditions, where women were essentially objects and accessories for men. And even those of them who accept that it’s wrong, and have changed, aren’t going to be so easily convinced to pass judgement upon folks from the past who behaved like that… because a lot of them behaved like that.
Society’s treatment of women was shitty and fucked up.
Pull out of one set of districts where you think you can declare victory, land feet first in one that isn’t even on anyone’s map as something that should be competitive. Wow!
(Trump won the district by an even 20. Cook has it rated as “Lean Republican”. We need Nate Cohn to drop a Siena/Upshot poll there!)
I heard you liked poll porn so I got you some poll porn for my poll porn.
BTW, Trump approval at 44% in the crosstabs of this poll seems fairly reasonable. I think Q has a Gillum-DiSantis poll coming in the next day or so, will be interesting to compare.
CraigM
4624
Asymmetrical attention. Those who this argument resonates for were already going to vote for the R. It doesn’t pull strongly for them anyhow, small change.
But there are people for whom this argument not only doesn’t resonate, but viscerally, violently offends them. Some of them may have voted R. Even hardcore Republican women can’t think ‘attempted rape is perfectly ok’. I’d imagine that, for many women this is not just some abstract thing they laugh off, but something they or someone they know experienced.
They will care, and care deeply.
RichVR
4625
As someone in the Twitter thread mentioned, the red tide issue here has really hurt Scott. He killed funding that would have researched it. And here it is. Dead fish thick on beaches. The smell is thick enough to cut with a knife. Loss of tourist revenue is the big no-no here in Florida. He shot himself in the foot. Good.
Interesting. I think most national commentators are putting his ebb on Gillum’s presence in the governor’s race, but that feels like one of those fascinating local bits of intrigue that are important but get missed.
Timex
4627
The weird thing about the red tide is that it was in the national news for like, a week? And then they stopped covering it.
But that shit is still going on.
I like that you used the word “ebb” in a thread about Red Tides.
claps wildly
I didn’t even notice that, so sadly going to have to put this on to “any monkey with a typewriter” rather than any deliberate cleverness. :)
Nesrie
4631
I just want to say I get that there is a group of Americans out there that think using women as objects is not only okay but expected. I just don’t think they’re big enough to say it’s “the” norm. They’re just a powerful minority group driven often by the privilege of their race and money.
