Timex
4957
Yeah, the state does in fact have to have a constitution, I’m pretty sure. Note, I’m saying that the state itself needs to have a constitutional convention… not the United States.
magnet
4958
Ah, ok. I though you meant we needed a federal constitutional convention.
Timex
4959
Heh, yeah, not… Just the state itself. But that isn’t a short process.
Like I said, Having PR become a state is a good idea. But it’d be a process that would take years, and it’d require majority support in both houses of congress.
magnet
4960
Just for reference, the last state admitted was Hawaii.
The statehood referendum among Hawaiians was in 1959.
The Congressional vote for admitting Hawaii was in 1959.
The first Senator from Hawaii joined Congress in 1959.
The Constitution of Hawaii was ratified in … 1950! A few amendments were passed by popular vote in 1959, but there was no constitutional convention until 1978.
Apparently, a new Constitutional Convention isn’t necessary if you already have a pre-statehood constitution. And Puerto Rico does have a constitution, ratified in 1952. So if Congress votes to admit Puerto Rico, we might greet their representatives sooner than you think.
The problem at the moment is that citizens of PR have never unambiguously voted for statehood. I think the last referendum passed but voter turnout was so low as to make the whole thing problematic. It’s not at all clear that a majority of Puerto Ricans want statehood.
I got that from How Stuff Works, which referenced an article from 2012 in The Week magazine (which is as you say incorrect, going down that rabbit hole didn’t state anywhere else that a 2/3 majority is required.)
No argument here!
I mean, to be fair, one can hardly blame them for not wanting to finally accept the full colonialist embrace of the douchebags next door who’ve been economically and environmentally fucking them for the last century+.
I mean, it would help change the electoral demographics of the douchebags next door in a way that might benefit us all over the next few decades, but the value proposition for them has to pass through a lot of raw feelings and well-earned mistrust.
Well, this is delightful. Let me pull the pin on this hate grenade and throw it.
KevinC
4965
Well, enjoy the country and world you inherit. Dipshits.
Enidigm
4966
It’s a big world and that is a small sample.
If that is a trend - i mean i was day 1 ready to vote at 18 because yay voting, but whatever - it’s probably due to the enormous mass of content being produced today crowding out politics in the “attention economy” for young people.
I do worry about a side effect of all this cathartic posting on social media. We’re way past the point where liking somebody’s pithy tweet means anything. We need to put down the phones and pick up the hammers, essentially. I worry that liberals are seeking and receiving temporary relief from the millions of words pouring out every month about how horrible things are, validating all these feelings, instead of turning that energy into the kind of old school political agitation that really puts the fear of god in politicians. Like mass protests, mass walk outs, mass multi week shutdowns, ect.
I will say there are a lot of blue collar Republican types i know that also self select out of voting because they don’t follow politics.
That helps brighten a day.
Oghier
4968
Holy crap. Please be true!
Does that actually map to any results, historically?
The line that folks like the Two Nates and Harry Enten, along with Dave Wasserman at Cook have been throwing out there is that the Dems probably need at least a 7% generic ballot cross-country to retake the House. But then it sort of moves up like the Richter Scale, where each percentage point is actually an exponential. So at 8%, it’s really likely, and like a 30-seat gain, and at 9% it’s like a 35-40 seat gain.
And those are – lest it need be said – probabilities. We’ve all missed that XCOM face shot on a flanking maneuver at 85%…:D
(Still, would rather be on the happy side of that percent than the other.)
And finally, it is at least interesting to look to see where a pollster had the generic ballot over time.
Final edit to this post. I swear this time. CNN/SSRS I guess does this poll monthly. Sept 6–9 they had things at Democrats +10. This is a +3 move.
That CNN generic ballot preference poll, this jumped out at me:
Women prefer democratic candidates: 63%-33%. That is what you call a Kavanaugh Krater. (Poll conducted starting Thursday and continued through Sunday, so all post-Kavanaugh/Dr. Ford testimony and inevitability of Kavanaugh confirmation.)
All discussion of Political probabilities should be related to X-Com To Hit probabilities IMO.
They should give a shit about who runs their country, but way worse is people who do give a shit and still don’t vote.
But is it just a blip that will fade by Nov 6th?
