5158

To be fair it was Trump calling her Pocahontas.

5159

Unfortunately her idiotic move is being used against her in the midterms too, and the GOP base are eating it up.

5160

Your bubble is way too bubbly.

5161

I mean they ate the Kavanaugh stuff up and it didn’t translate in any way to the polls.

If anything this is Trump and the GOP attacking another woman.

5162

My bubble? Shhheeeet man. I’m all for acknowledging that her dumbassery may not harm every other battle in the midterms, but let’s not ignore the fact that up until this strategic blunder she was the Democratic favorite for a presidential run. That kind of stupidity hurts everyone.

5163

The entire thing started with Scott Brown when Warren ran for Senate in MA. There are videos of Brown’s staff mimicking war warps. It’s disgustingly racist, and it ought to be trump vilified, not Warren.

But yes, let’s go ahead and just repeat “But her emails” all over again and blame Warren.

5164

More tales from the bubble?

I mean, I get the narrative. Elizabeth Warren this, Judge Kavanaugh that. #DemsInDisarray!

But then I look at data and not anecdote. Fundraising totals for obscure, unknown Democrats in impossible-seeming races. Polling data and responses coming in within the last 5-7 days.

5165

Where and by whom has she ever been the favorite in 2020?

5166

Seriously. @MrGrumpy. This is crazy. She proved it so they should shut up.

5167

I don’t think it’s the same. Almost no Democrat or liberal think she’s in the right on this. Hell many Warren supporters think she’s being dumb here.

5168

So the whole Warren DNA thing has occupied the media more than the story about Trump’s decades of tax evasion and the various recent reports about how we are screwing the planet. Good job!

5169

Aw, I wish. No White Castles to be found in the Great White North. I wish they’d expand here…

5170

I see it both ways, she needed to respond to Trump’s racist rants at her, but she also shouldn’t have put out that video the way it was. The crazy part is, she has barely used her “native american heritage” as a talking point, it is just something that Trump and the GOP jumped on.

Either way, nobody will be talking about this in a month, and I hope that the democrats have learned their lesson not to try to co-opt other group’s struggles as part of their political agenda.

Also, she is a woman so, you know, this gets more scrutiny than any of the other dumb shit male politicians do. It is a double standard.

5171

I’m not sure I see the political calculus, but Obama’s birth certificate was a talking point for his entire term of office. There are still many millions of Americas who sincerely believe he is a secret Muslim socialist. She didn’t choose this battleground: Scott Brown and Trump did. I do think it’s probably a mistake to fight on it, and I can’t believe how much of the news cycle it took up, but if a dog won’t stop trying to bite your leg, at some point you have to kick it.

5172

Not that there isn’t plenty of misogyny directed Warren’s or any female Dem’s way, but thinking she’s getting any extra blowback on this particular stupidity for being a woman is loony tunes.

5173

Yes the Scott Brown stickers are still on the utility pole on the corner of my street, I remember. I don’t know why the fuck now, in 2018, she got a DNA test to gloat about being 1/32nd native american. She’s white. I’m 1/16th and I’m white too. It’s… distasteful.

Warren is a fine senator and I will vote for her again. But this is so petty.

5174

“Pocahantas”

And it is looney tunes to think that in the world that we live in there isn’t implicit bias against women everywhere in society.

5175

Courtesy of Reddit:

5176

This article by Matt Yglesias is awesome. I was cheering every other sentence. It’s not so much a “Whither Democrats” as it is a cautionary tale for Democrats, but it’s worth reading:

To the extent that progressive politicians feel compelled to cater to anti-immigration sentiments, the one thing they should absolutely avoid doing at any cost is imply that immigrants are a real problem for economic policy.

If we want to raise the minimum wage, the solution is to raise the minimum wage. If we want stronger labor unions, the solution is to reform labor law. If we want to tax the rich, the solution is to tax the rich. If we want to provide decent health care and education to everyone, the solution is to provide decent health care and education to everyone.

Cracking down on immigration and trade is neither necessary nor sufficient to advancing progressive goals on any of these fronts. Saying that it is simply plays into the hands of the business interests who are the real impediments to progress.

5177

I thought the issue was that she checked the box for “Native American” back in college, not that she ever called herself that as part of campaigning. My understanding is that the GOP dug up that old info and has used it to hammer her.

It’s frustrating: she should definitely not have checked that box in my view, but the GOP are blowing it way out of proportion.