I’m not sure getting all-in behind the dude that lost is a great strategy, but he seems decent enough.
I mean in fairness, he lost in Texas. Jesus could run as a Dem in Texas and I’d still be wary of betting money on him.
He lost in Texas. The fact that it was even a question that he might win gives him a lot of points.
not to belabor the comparison but
(No, I’m not saying Beto is the equal of Abe Lincoln. Just that these things happen)
Beto raised a ton of money because (imo) Texas Democrats were horrified by Trump, more than enthusiastic about Beto. At least that’s my guess. He had a few good speeches but imo his debate performance wasn’t perfect or wall shattering.
Not to say i’d oppose Beto in any way (he did get my money after all) but i’m honestly not sure how much of his fundraising success had to do with him vs ActBlue.
A fair point. Though Jesus couldn’t win anywhere as anything imo. Maybe Manhattan or LA. Until he started in about pornography or something.
Jesus would say we don’t need a military and should spend all the money on the poor. Which wouldn’t go over with… anyone really. The idea of our response to 9/11 being to turn the other cheek wouldn’t have gone well (Boondocks did a cartoon on it with MLK iirc).
There was one photograph… of him being a comedian… doing something that wasn’t very funny in hindsight. And there was a woman who said he squeezed her side during a photo op. (I’m not minimizing her complaint–that’s what she said.) Franken was in a virtuous circle where the testimony against him would only stick if people thought he was a creep, but the evidence that he was a creep was the testimony against him. Exuent Franken. He was expertly ratfucked.
What we do know, for anyone who believes, is that the person who would get the most likes, the most votes, and do the best politically essentially would be the anti-Christ, no Jesus, so either way yep.
Heard that. I’m still mad. Not least at Franken for putting himself in that position. Goddammit.
Also, I’m trying to find the right joke to make around “proud to be a Beto cuck” but nothing is really landing. Help!
The “cuck” language is gross, even in jest, and I don’t think it works here anything.
If I were designing the t-shirt, I’d probably just go with “Beto Male” with a picture of him.
Beto is a strong choice. The campaign he ran in Texas was great, and made an easy Cruz pickup a difficult race.
Put him in a nationwide race and he boosts Democrats across the ballot. He will easily secure the youth vote, unless he decides to tell us to do Fortnite dances at the polls, or something equally as square.
If that would have been an open seat, Beto could have won. He pulled a lot of blue candidates up with him (including all of the democratic judges in TX). The momentum is strong, he pulls as a moderate, but isn’t out of touch with the liberal side of the democratic party.
It makes sense. He should, at the very least, take part in the primary.
OTOH, this made me chuckle. Or should I say…cuckle.
Fist bump emoji
Gillum took a meeting with Barack now as well, also said to be thinking about 2020.
Every time I read something like that I think of it as being some audience with the Emperor or the Pope to receive their blessing on pursuing the crown.
I wonder about the wisdom of running candidates who’ve lost against Donald Trump
Beto-Duckworth 2020 or Beto-Brown (Sherrod) 2020 or Beto-Gillum 2020 or some mashup of those would all be a ticket I would be all-in on. What’s needed in 2020 is a mix of youthful charisma and hope together with experience and determination. All of the names above incorporate at least one of those aspects. There are easily a dozen other rising Democratic stars that could also bring those qualities to the table as at least a VP candidate. My only concern there would be political experience. Is someone like Beto really ready to go up against other world leaders, or even GOP Congressional leaders, to win the tough political battles? An experienced Cabinet will make all the difference there.
The last thing I want to see is Warren, Pelosi, Biden, Bernie or Schumer. All are the equivalent of flashing lights that will induce seizures in Conservative/Republican voters and basically unite them in the same way Hillary did while at the same time being either unexciting or downright divisive in their appeal to Democrats, especially younger ones. Warren, Pelosi and Schumer are desperately needed to continue doing exactly what they are doing in Congress, especially if we can elect a Democratic President. I personally love Joe Biden. The man is a Washington legend, and a genuinely good person, and I think he would have made a fantastic President…a decade ago. But he’s simply going to be too old, and while people love him, he doesn’t inspire the same way Obama, Beto, AOC and others in the party inspire. For Biden and Bernie…advisory Cabinet positions would be ideal.
The key to winning in 2020 is to choose a pair of candidates that not only inspire Democrats, especially young people and all those newly registered voters the excellent GOTV campaigns of 2018 and the coming two years bring into the mix, but also don’t automatically incite the opposition the way someone like Pelosi, Warren or Hillary do. We want a Beto, or a Sherrod Brown, or a Tammy Duckworth, someone who has proven mass appeal, not just to Democrats, but to people on the fence and even those who may have voted Republican previously but have come to regret it and are looking for a change.
Why the heck are you slamming Pelosi and Schumer into your nightmare? They have never, ever, indicated a desire to run for President in 2020. There aren’t even rumors about it.
As for me, I plan to embrace the coming Democratic primary clown car. Let a million voices (or a couple dozen, in this case) cry out and the best one win.
I agree on who I think the “right” Democratic candidate would be. I have to say, though, Republicans will absolutely be shrieking in outrage at whichever anti-christ the Democrats nominate, but unlike Hillary Clinton they won’t have had decades of groundwork to build on. I know this is anecdotal but I know many people around here who were appalled by Trump but absolutely could not get themselves to vote for known she-devil Hillary. The sad thing is, all the things they were worried about with her (selling out her country, etc) are being delivered in spades by Trump.
I think there are a large number of conservatives who won’t agree with the Democrats policy positions but can vote for someone not quite so toxic as Hillary as a means to getting rid of Trump. HIllary was just an impossible sell to them because in their minds she was the known snake as opposed to merely the likely snake of Donald Trump.
I wouldn’t count on this. They’fl find another reason. No matter who is put up, the GOP will try and turn them into a snake, and the bulk of their voters will use it as an excuse. They want an excuse. They’ve been trained to find one. And no, I ma not separating conservatives from the GOP. They haven’t proven there is a big difference there, yet. I’ll believe it when I see at the polls.