Menzo
1952
I never said or thought that.
DeSantis is a prick, no doubt, but how well voter tolerance for that aligns with the EC is what worries me.
No, but you’re implying the same sort of dynamic.
Look, maybe you’re right? Maybe we all really want DeSantis Death Squads in 2024? I’m not buying it until I see it.
Is it me, or does that basically apply to any 2024 GOP nominee other than Trump?
Menzo
1956
I’m assuming the nominee will be either Trump or DeSantis.
Maybe? But that means Desantis’ ability to win going away in Florida is irrelevant to the calculation. He just has to be not-Trump.
I think that’s the objection: the idea that his win in Florida means anything about the electoral college math in 2024.
Seriously, some of you guys seem 100% positive DeSantis has no chance at a national race.
I don’t agree.
Timex
1959
Again, he turned a victory of, what, 1% in his original election into a 20% win this round. He did that by gaining a huge amount of support among Hispanics.
If the GOP can win Hispanics, they will win nationally.
I for one find DeSantis scarier than Trump in a national election. He’s a younger, less stupid version of Trump that could easily take the reigns away (IE: trumpy voters could support him.) The question is how he gets them away from Trump, who I can’t see supporting anyone but himself.
Aren’t FL Hispanics Cuban, which is a subgroup that has entirely different behavior and doesn’t generalize? Ok, that’s over-simplifying, but there’s a sizable portion of that population that may not generalize.
Hispanic or Latino consists of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban and other Hispanic or Latino types. Hispanic population in Florida are 5,015,015. Percentage wise 24.73 percent are hispanics, out of these 694,779 are Mexican people, 1,065,351 are Puerto Ricans, 1,450,510 are Cubans, and 1,804,375 are other Hispanic or Latinos.
Menzo
1962
That is the best part of this. Trump being Trump won’t ever step aside, even though doing so would be a huge boon for the Republican Party.
KevinC
1963
Same here. He’s a more palatable and less loudly stupid version of Trump. All the cruelty just with more professionalism. Which isn’t really a combination I want to see, Trump’s idiocy is what prevented even worse outcomes from his presidency.
I think DeSantis is going to appeal to those conservatives that “Liked Trump’s policies” but were turned off by his “saying the quiet part out loud” behavior. I’m more worried about him being the nominee in 2024 than Trump, although I dread either one of those outcomes.
Timex
1964
It’s certainly different than the overall hispanic makeup, but DeSantis won in freaking Miami Dade. In 2020, Biden won that district by 7 points. Yesterday, DeSantis won it by 11. That’s a huge shift.
I would not discount DeSantis’ ability to put together a new coalition of voters for the GOP that would be much more competitive than Trump’s dumpster fire.
antlers
1965
What I hate to see is never+Trump Republicans lining up.behind DeSantis. Sure, he’s less of an embarrassing niwit, but he’s an authoritarian without principles. He gives Republicans an opportunity to appear to return to normalcy while ending rule-of-law once and for all.
abrandt
1966
It’s all going to come down to how much he can motivate voters outside of Florida to actually come vote. He doesn’t have Trump’s odd charisma that led to his rabid followers and high turnout from people who might not regularly vote. But yeah, he’ll definitely be more palatable for the people who didn’t like Trump’s personality.
Sharpe
1968
Take the DeSantis debate to the appropriate thread guys. Please.
This thread needs to remain focused on actual 2022 midterms and results. There are serious issues and outcomes still pending and some of us want to keep abreast of that via this thread.
Timex
1971
For those interested, you can just google “Election Results 2022” and google will give you a cool dashboard that shows the results from everything across the country.
