All good demons go to... um... sequel? - Diablo 3 Announced

stusser · 2012-05-23T13:40:11.000Z

Starlight:

Ah, so you’re only counting a subset of PC gaming, ignoring casual gaming, ARG’s, MMO’s, indy games, digital sales…

Japanese rape simulators, hopscotch, the Game of Thrones TV show, Candyland, pickup hoops at the gym, beer pong…

Ninyu · 2012-05-23T13:45:43.000Z

Stream of a hardcore Barb starting Inferno:

http://www.twitch.tv/kungentv

Jag · 2012-05-23T13:48:45.000Z

Any good guides for making money on the AH?

mouselock · 2012-05-23T13:59:07.000Z

Ninyu:

Stream of a hardcore Barb starting Inferno:

http://www.twitch.tv/kungentv

Actually it’s a stream of him farming the very opening of Act I. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of Blizzard’s attempts to keep farming from being worthwhile. (Or maybe he’s just stupid… no clue really… but it’s relatively boring to watch though I understand why he’s doing it.)

stusser · 2012-05-23T14:00:00.000Z

Buy low, sell high. No really. Buy weapons with sockets at x0000 gold max buyout with >X str/dev/int and good secondary affixes like life on hit, then resell for y9999 gold.

Ninyu · 2012-05-23T14:01:38.000Z

mouselock:

Actually it’s a stream of him farming the very opening of Act I. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of Blizzard’s attempts to keep farming from being worthwhile. (Or maybe he’s just stupid… no clue really… but it’s relatively boring to watch though I understand why he’s doing it.)

He’s undergeared for Inferno really. It is much better to farm where he is then Act 4 Hell.

JM1 · 2012-05-23T14:01:57.000Z

Jag:

Any good guides for making money on the AH?

Step One: Wait for Blizzard to turn it back on (Grrr)

aeneas · 2012-05-23T14:04:05.000Z

Does anyone have any thoughts on the hotfixes? The forums seem to predictably going mental.

JetLagger · 2012-05-23T14:12:58.000Z

mouselock:

Actually it’s a stream of him farming the very opening of Act I. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of Blizzard’s attempts to keep farming from being worthwhile. (Or maybe he’s just stupid… no clue really… but it’s relatively boring to watch though I understand why he’s doing it.)

That’s not inferno farming. This is inferno farming. http://www.twitch.tv/nl_quiks/b/318928405
Skip to the 5 min mark to see the process of farming The Silver Spire. Have one team member spec DPS, DPS the mob down to around 5%, then the other 3 party member join game wearing plus magic item find gear. Rinse. Repeat. The nolife guys beat Diablo last week sometime. They were posting top quality items cheap that day.

Also Wendy the kitten is adorable.

-Tim

charmtrap · 2012-05-23T14:13:47.000Z

I dunno about the Wiz one, but the Monk and DH ones seem reasonable. DH’s SS basically made him invincible through entire fights.

Quaro · 2012-05-23T14:17:21.000Z

You can’t farm like that in Hardcore.

Blizzard wanted people to play through the maps and levels to farm champion monsters. But instead everyone just farms tiny one room maps or resplendent chest spawns. It’s almost worse than boss farming.

KevinC · 2012-05-23T14:48:49.000Z

aeneas:

Does anyone have any thoughts on the hotfixes? The forums seem to predictably going mental.

I get the impression some people were abusing it with Preparation, but the Smoke Screen change to a 1s duration is silly (1.5s with Rune, down from 2.0/3.0s). When you factor in latency, what are you going to accomplish in one second? And really, using a rune to gain a half second?

They should have upped the discipline cost or something on it instead. It effects some other runes as well:

Displacement - gain 35% movement speed for… one second.
Breath Deep - gain 6 hatred for… one second.

If they needed to nerf it, I wish they would have done it in a different way.

Charlatan · 2012-05-23T14:50:30.000Z

aeneas:

Does anyone have any thoughts on the hotfixes? The forums seem to predictably going mental.

Everywhere I’ve read has been “wah wah wah” about the Monk changes. Though the game has been out less than a week, people are proclaiming that all the “best” builds have been destroyed and it’s no longer possible to play X class in Inferno.

So everything is normal!

Lazy_Shiftless_Basta · 2012-05-23T14:50:36.000Z

I think it’s a funny comment on human nature that no matter what you do people will gravitate towards doing the stupidest, most boring and repetitive ways to farm instead of playing the game. Maybe if they just make the Nephalem Valor buff get so overpowered that not playing through the game becomes clearly stupidly inferior, or actually lowering the drop rates in inferno if you don’t have it to get the same effect.

Starlight · 2012-05-23T14:53:27.000Z

Lazy Shiftless Bastard:

or actually lowering the drop rates in inferno if you don’t have it to get the same effect.

Perhaps DDO’s approach - limiting the number of times you can consecutively farm a given area/chest, you have to let it recover after 5-6 looting attempts.

Harkonis · 2012-05-23T14:56:18.000Z

The monk stuff they are changing needed to be changed. IT made me practically invulnerable at times.

StGabe · 2012-05-23T15:02:37.000Z

KevinC:

I get the impression some people were abusing it with Preparation, but the Smoke Screen change to a 1s duration is silly (1.5s with Rune, down from 2.0/3.0s). When you factor in latency, what are you going to accomplish in one second? And really, using a rune to gain a half second?

They should have upped the discipline cost or something on it instead. It effects some other runes as well:

Displacement - gain 35% movement speed for… one second.
Breath Deep - gain 6 hatred for… one second.

If they needed to nerf it, I wish they would have done it in a different way.

I think one solution would have been to have given SS a cooldown of somewhere between 5 and 10s.

It is pretty abusable. I wasn’t at the point where I could spam it indefinitely but I could see that being a possibility. 1.5s is still useful FWIW, just not nearly as good as 3s. I could see it being 1.5s, 2.5s with rune, and a 5s cooldown.

Pogo · 2012-05-23T15:28:14.000Z

stusser:

Buy low, sell high. No really. Buy weapons with sockets at x0000 gold max buyout with >X str/dev/int and good secondary affixes like life on hit, then resell for y9999 gold.

And you’re going to do what with that gold, exactly?

stusser · 2012-05-23T15:29:33.000Z

Strip down and roll around on your bed with it. It’s a videogame, what do you use money for in any of them?

I guess you could sell it on the RMAH.

Pogo · 2012-05-23T15:38:08.000Z

stusser:

It’s a videogame

Bingo.

Which is why I don’t see the point of fucking around with an auction house where the prices are so FUBARed in the first place that there’s no reason to have more gold than what you pick up from monsters or make from the occasionally successful rare item sell. I have 450,000 and nothing to do with it. I have made only about 30,000g of that from the Auction House, and the rest from Gold Find because if the game is going to throw us the same 3 out of 5 completely unexciting statistics on Rare items, one of them might as well be Gold Find.

I suppose I could open a stash tab for the purpose of… nothing, because I vendor every yellow and blue that comes my way. It’s almost not even worth the time to give to my alts, because when any of my alts hit a brick wall in terms of challenge I’ll just spend two minutes to buy one or two ridiculous items that are maybe 2500 gold with relevant stats.

And I’m going to just laugh at anyone that spends real money for items. Without any item sink whatsoever the RMAH is just going to be constant re-listing of an infinite supply of gear that’s going to drop in price more and more. It’s ridiculous.

If anyone spent $60 in order to play an auction house, I feel sorry for them. There’s a game with a badass combat engine in there, stop wasting time at the AH and go play it!