Is it just me or is the AH insanely expensive for items higher than about level 50? I’m starting to think that we were a little premature in advocating the AH as a “I WIN” button that obsoletes crafting. You can still find cheap deals here and there, but I’ve seen a dramatic drop-off on those deals with items above level 50. I can only imagine how expensive level 60s are going to be.
It starts ramping up massively about the time people are looking to gear for Nightmare, and just keeping going up, in part because the gold drops go up so much in Nightmare as well. It’s not outrageous around 50 though, compared to what you’re pulling in for cash. You can get good gear for 25k or less a slot, and really good gear for under 50k.
I am not looking forward to trying to buy level 60 gear though.
I hear you about the jailers! The wallers aren’t so bad because you can usually move around them or attack through them (if you’re melee). The jailers can be nasty especially when they jail you then put a hell pit beneath your feet (desecration). Good luck surviving that!
I’ve put my lvl 40 Witch Doctor on hiatus because it’s probably the most complicated class to play. Nightmare was giving me A LOT of trouble.
StGabe
5824
A lot of people on here seem to be really premature about judging both the value of the AH and the value of items. The AH market is just now settling down to some decent values and the item choices you make at level 60 are pretty interesting (I have already gone through a couple end game item builds).
Just a few days ago you could still get some really fantastic deals on level 60 gear. I was lucky enough to pick up a crossbow for 200k that I could resell right now for 5-10 million. More high end items are available but it’s far less likely you’ll find something overpriced. Not only are people getting smarter about pricing but the market is full of people sniping underpriced auctions and relisting them.
One thing to do when you search: immediately look for anything with “2d” time remaining. That’s an item that just got posted and might be a better deal. Anything that’s been up longer than that wasn’t worth someone sniping. It doesn’t mean you don’t want some of those older items, if they happen to have the right stat combo, but you’re just not gonna get a great deal.
I feel a bit silly with how much D3 I’ve played since launch (over 60 hours now) but it was sort of worth it in that I hit the AH at just in time to get some killer deals. They’re still there but they’re a lot harder to find.
I’ve frequently been getting waller groups that create a funnel shape around me. So I hit a dead end, and they’re flowing in towards me with no escape. That’s what gets me.
As for the witch doctor that’s a shame to hear. I suppose I’ll just level him duo with my father than.
My level 59 Wizard! I’m hoping to hit 60 tonight before we go on vacation, but it’s a LONG ride to level up once you get passed 52 or so.
Quaro
5827
Has anyone EVER bid on an item? You can’t even sort the list by ‘time remaining’ to find auctions about to close so that feature feels completely useless.
Yep not being able to sort by time remaining is a real bummer. Especially considering some searches return multiple pages of gear. So annoying.
I’m starting to wonder why they even include bidding options in games. Not once have I ever bid, nor have I met anyone that ever bid on an item. In any game. Wow, swtor, diablo 3, etc.
Now I don’t pretend to know the absoute truth, but does alone bid on auction houses in games?
And that’s the thing. In its current state, the AH is so damn cumbersome.
It’s not a terrible implementation. See launch SWTOR for an example of a terrible auction house. But it could definitely use refinement.
Pogo
5832
If you can get some bids in on some decent Nightmare-level Gold Find gear, having +100% gold find makes a noticeable impact on you gold gain.
I focused on it with nearly all my alts, passing down Gold Find gear regardless of stats and using Emerald gems in helms, and I have 450k gold with only about 30k of it made from auction house sales.
Pogo
5833
The replayability concept you’re talking about is bullshit because you keep equating single-tree setups that give you only several interesting abilities and grinding back through tired content as “replayability.” You want to know what’s replayable? Diablo 3, because I want to keep coming back to the game to unlock new runes and skills and try different setups with weapons and skills. That’s replayability without the fucking grind that you and your ilk are so intent on defending.
I don’t know how many times it has to be explained to idiots but you and others just don’t bother even trying to understand a very simple argument. Your only purpose in bringing it up is to a) troll or b) get to a point where you can call people like me not hardcore enough.
Games aren’t made for you anymore, and that’s a good thing.
DeepT
5834
It is MUCH harder. It may not start off that way, but once you start running into elite packs of teleporting, jailing, desecrating mobs (just to name a few things they can do), you will definitely be challenged if not killed a lot.
Not sure where it was from, it was a 2H with 320-something I think dps for level 47. I’m 51 now so I reckon it should be a bit higher. It was selling for 300.000 which was 250.000 more than I had.
@Pogo: Re. Gold finding gear
Thanks for the tip, I’ll have a stab at it and see what I come up with =)
If you have something valuable to trade why can’t you sell it through the AH and buy something you need with the money you get out of it? Why does it have to be barter?
They ruined replayability with the classes.
Heh, you are posting this in response to Sean, the guy who got bored after taking his character through Normal. Let me assure you, if D3 hadn’t had the “respec” design, it wouldn’t made him interested in re-rolling the same class and taking it through Normal with a different build.
They didn’t “ruin” replayability with the classes, they got rid of it in favor of a more desired and almost universally praised feature - “flexibility of the classes”.
But I have a feeling, there is still no point in discussing it further.
DeepT
5837
It is a factor of more than your weapon. It is your weapon, +damage items, attack speed and your primary stat all working together to give those DPS numbers. My wizard ended NM mode with over 3000 dps. From reading what others were doing, that wasn’t exactly near the top-end DPS I have seen for NM players.
I think it’s almost entirely for the super high-end stuff.
These guys weren’t talking about character’s dps, they are discussing dps listed on the weapon.
Kyrios
5840
One trick I noticed yesterday: A level 55 2H sword with a modifier that lowers the level requirement by 8 (relatively common) will be usable at 47, will have somewhere in the 300-320 DPS range, and will show up on the Auction House as a level 55 item. You aren’t going to have a lot of other mods - it’s a blue item with one of the mods already taken up, after all - but if you need a pure DPS boost (and that DPS will likely be higher than a natural level 47 weapon, even with great mods), that should be one way to do it cheaply.
(I assume this holds true for other weapon types and levels as well, I just happened to notice it when I pulled a 310 DPS level 47 (55) blue and tried to price out comps on the AH).
