ShivaX
3667
Just playing computer games with them. They’re pretty much all ruralish guys (or were at one time) though, so that’s probably a factor
JD
3668
Good one.
New gun control measures are not the way to prevent mass killings such as the shooting deaths of nine people in a South Carolina church, the Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush said on Saturday.
Bush, who plans to meet black ministers in Charleston, South Carolina, on Monday, said identifying potentially violent people before they committed such crimes was a better approach than further restrictions on gun ownership.
Yep. The thing that absolutely cannot be done with all the psychologists, mass surveillance, and data mining the in the world is a better approach to something that actually could be done and has been done in other countries.
It’s a bit too late for sales restrictions. As of 2009, there were an estimated 310 million privately owned firearms in the United States. It would be difficult, if not impossible, to police the private sale of those weapons.
That’s not to say that his approach is anymore practical though.
The whole “cat out of the bag” argument is lame. It’s used over and over yet seemingly every mass shooting is with a recently acquired firearm. Stop or slow the supply and availability will decrease. And prices will rise, collectors will hold on tighter, and availability will decrease more.
Not that I think gun control in the U.S. has any chance of happening.
Timex
3671
Are there good statistical correlations between gun laws and reductions in violent crime?
Oh good Lord, Timex. Is this your first day on the Internet? What are you trying to do to us?
The loud sound you hear is tens of thousands of people debating this very thing for the last two decades.
Let’s solve it on QT3!
ShivaX
3673
Probably. There are probably just as many that show the opposite, though.
“Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are pliable.”
― Mark Twain
Although the CDC is forbidden from studying gun deaths. I guess we could look to Australia, seen guns have been banned there rather recently.
Still, just like climate change, everyone has their statistics, even if one is true, and the others were created by jackasses trying to make money.
This case is not nearly that clear-cut, and saying otherwise is either disingenuous or ignorant.
The jury remains out on Australia. Crime rates were trending down before the gun confiscation there. Studies disagree on whether it accelerated that decline. The best that can be said is that it may have had a small effect, and that it did somewhat decrease the firearms suicide rate.
I provided some logic in my post, can you provide some in yours? Does the pro-gun argument fall to simply “just because” that fast?
Consumers prefer to buy guns through licensed dealers but onerous sales restrictions would change that. The more difficult it is to buy a weapon legally, the more attractive person to person sales become. And there would be no background checks, no paper trail. Normally you would worry about hording in if such restrictions were implemented, but the supply would largely negate that issue. Now, you could turn it around and implement a national firearms registry to catch these transactions, but the legal and political issues are currently insurmountable. This is a point that DPM made in the early 90s, and I think it still stands. Sales restrictions are a largely feel good measure, and will do little if anything to limit access to firearms.
DPM’s bullet tax would be a more effective way of achieving your aims.
Ok so person-to-person sales would increase, I can agree with that. But there are 800,000 new pistols being sold in the US every year. If that were stopped or decreased by a significant margin, who would supply the person-to-person market? Dude on the street would want a lot more than $125, and those that already have pistols wouldn’t sell them.
I use pistols as I seem them as a crime problem.
Razgon
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I was about to post this in the 4th of July thread, but figured that would be the wrong place for it.
Damn, I just read about Amari Brown from Chicago… 82 people shot in Chigaco from between thursday evening to monday morning - That can’t be normal, can it? 14 of them killed - that just seems like such insane numbers! Rahm Emanuel advocates stronger gun control which I find understandable, especially after such a weekend.
For comparison, in Denmark the big news that are shooting related was two shots fired at a gang related house this weekend. And we are what…close to 6 million people by now?
edit: sorry -apparently my danish newspaper source had some wrong information… The 82 people shot was last year - sorry about that. By mid-afternoon Sunday, at least seven people had been killed in Chicago and 40 wounded in 33 separate shooting incidents since Friday.
Chicago is an extremely violent city. It’s about twice as homicidal as Los Angeles or Houston, the two cities to either side of it on the population leaderboard. (It’s half as violent as Washington, DC, though, which has one of the lowest rates of legal firearms ownership in the country.)
It’s not terribly unusual, statistically.
Chicago’s murder rate in 2015 trending to be higher than 2014 (390 for the year), but still lower than the ludicrously violent 2012 (500+).
Most violence is committed in warmer months, and you see an uptick on holiday weekends when people are off of work and/or drunk. Add in the fact that the media are using “weekend” to refer to the four-day period between Thursday and Sunday rather than the typical Friday evening through Sunday, and you get a statistical spike.
And as Razgon noted, this year was actually half as deadly as 7/4/14.
I guess this goes here instead of the Movies section of the forum. We can thank these shooter turds for not being able to sneak candy into the theater any more.
http://www.regmovies.com/theatres/admittance-procedures
Security issues have become a daily part of our lives in America. Regal Entertainment Group wants our customers and staff to feel comfortable and safe when visiting or working in our theatres. To ensure the safety of our guests and employees, backpacks and bags of any kind are subject to inspection prior to admission. We acknowledge that this procedure can cause some inconvenience and that it is not without flaws, but hope these are minor in comparison to increased safety.
A new meaning for security theater.
Start the incinerators and round 'em all up. No one interferes with my jumbo package of Twizzlers.
The last time I smuggled food into a theater, it was a pair of hoagies and a 20oz root beer in cargo pockets way back in high school. As long as there aren’t patdowns, food finds a way.
