7886

Have you done any serious home repair, recently? I can believe 100K with a baseball bat. Several windows, some appliances, a bathroom or two, some built-in furniture. Shit is expensive nowadays.

7887

Well the kids were also shooting a shotgun and an AK-47 inside the property. We don’t know the precise locations, but allegedly the AK fired off an entire clip (usually 30 rounds) so that’s actually quite a bit of damage right there. Plus shotgun blasts.

This is a terrible situation on many levels and I feel a lot of the problems are systemic. The big picture on how this happened is likely to be truly horrid.

7888

So, they were asking for it? I kid a bit because I think gun storage laws are one of the best bipartisan ideas we could maybe get passed, but really is the problem here gun storage? Why are tweens thinking a shootout with the cops is an option?

7889

I mean sure, if you have an AK-47 and a couple kids can get access to it, it seems like that’s a disaster waiting to happen, doesn’t it? I’m just surprised that the kids found the home of the one gun owner in the area that didn’t have their guns properly secured.

7890

Because that’s what kids do?

7891

I’m just here to sarcastically rag on irresponsible gun owners, not actually figure out why the kids did what they did.

7892

Fair enough.

7893

I’m still mad, years later, about my idiot brother. He should know better, but one day we were at a friends house playing games. He had gone duck hunting. He had put his son down for a nap in the guest room. He also left his shotgun in there.

I discovered this when I went to check on the kids and change movies and saw my 3 year old nephew walking around with said shotgun.

I’ll never forgive him for that, despite nothing else happning.

7894

Maaaaannnn.

7895

Will it surprise you to hear this same brother has decided not to get the vaccine for Covid, but is not wearing a mask using the line ‘I choose to identify as vaccinated’

I am not on speaking terms with him right now.

7896

Brother, it will not.

7897

I think I remember this coming up before at some point. Insane.

7898

I finally quite target shooting back in the 1990s largely due to the insanity of people at the firing ranges. Despite supposedly having rules and stuff, so many ranges tolerated the most wretched behaviors, from downright unsafe to open, virulent racism. Most people were fine, of course, but when you are talking weapons, the severity of individual cases of idiocy, malfeasance, and incompetence is multiplied significantly.

7899

Spoiler: He was a cop. Because of course he was.

7900

So yeah, fuck you Judge Benitez. An AR-15 is simply a Swiss army knife or some bullshit.

“Like the Swiss Army Knife, the popular AR-15 rifle is a perfect combination of home defense weapon and homeland defense equipment,” Benitez said in the ruling.

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I’d rather they ban magazines of n rounds or greater and that sort of thing. “Assault weapon” has always been a little too nebulous for me, at least how I see it used in conversation and media. Given that it’s a law, I’m sure California was more precise, but I feel like banning “assault weapons” is going to leave a plethora of just as deadly options available.

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I don’t suppose California couldn’t just do a huge bullet tax, could it?

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It should be based on firing mechanism, barrel size, and round type: all firearms with 1)semi-automatic firing, plus either 2a)barrels larger than a pistol barrel or 2b)high-powered rifle type ammunition should be classified as Assault Weapons in my view. So everything in the AR family and adjacent, basically, but nothing else. If you do it properly on a technical basis, the whole issue about labels is solved.

(Handguns with semi-automatic firing would NOT be covered by the ban I’m describing - that’s a separate issue.)

Edit: When I perused the actual California law in question it turns out KevinC is right: the law as written, instead of having the fairly simple criteria I proposed has a laundry list of qualifying features, a smorgasbord of gun fu, if you will, that is not really the cleanest statutory drafting I have seen.

Just to give a flavor, here is subsection a) of the CA law (it goes all the way to e) if you want to read it):

(a) Notwithstanding Section 30510, “assault weapon” also means any of the following:

(1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that does not have a fixed magazine but has any one of the following:

(A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.

(B) A thumbhole stock.

© A folding or telescoping stock.

(D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.

(E) A flash suppressor.

(F) A forward pistol grip.

(2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

(3) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.

(4) A semiautomatic pistol that does not have a fixed magazine but has any one of the following:

(A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.

(B) A second handgrip.

© A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning the bearer’s hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.

(D) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.

(5) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

(6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:

(A) A folding or telescoping stock.

(B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.

(7) A semiautomatic shotgun that does not have a fixed magazine.

(8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

(9) A semiautomatic centerfire firearm that is not a rifle, pistol, or shotgun, that does not have a fixed magazine, but that has any one of the following:

(A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.

(B) A thumbhole stock.

© A folding or telescoping stock.

(D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.

(E) A flash suppressor.

(F) A forward pistol grip.

(G) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.

(H) A second handgrip.

(I) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning the bearer’s hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.

(J) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.

(10) A semiautomatic centerfire firearm that is not a rifle, pistol, or shotgun, that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

(11) A semiautomatic centerfire firearm that is not a rifle, pistol, or shotgun, that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.

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I’ve always thought it would be fun to do something like this, just to shut up the 2nd Amendment morons. Or require a license or something.

“Here’s your gun. Now, we’ll just need to do an extensive background check and safety training to issue you your ammo-purchasing license.”

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