olaf
1607
lol ok. He is a novelist now. But his resume speaks for itself. He has more firearms experience than 99.999% of the US. If you are interested in an intelligent discourse why would you discount that?
ShivaX
1608
Conspiracy nuts are the worst. Especially since they think they’re actually just smarter than rational people. I swear if I see another Ron Paul fan post that picture on Facebook I may lose my shit.
Alex Jones is conspiracy theorist who has a somewhat successful syndicated radio show about all things nutjob. AFAIK he was one of the first after the Sandy Hook shootings to start pushing conspiracy theories about how it was a false flag operation.
Heres the full 14 minute version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1Ddb3oa5CE
Alex Jones mocking british accent in the last minute is not to be missed.
It’s a pretty amazing piece of tape. I am not a Piers Morgan fan but he does an great job just sitting there letting Jones become unhinged without him having to say a word. I knew Jones was a nut, but I wasn’t aware he was a raving lunatic. I was under the assumption he was more of a charismatic leader type/televangelist type who just went along with wackiness because it served the purpose of bringing him ratings; clearly based on that video he is far more invested in the cause than that.
Heh, that was pretty entertaining.
“That’s fine…‘bud’.”
Posted to my local newpaper’s forum today:
"“At almost the same time as the Sandy Hook school shooting, in China a man entered an elementary school with a knife and wounded 22 children. This simply points out that guns are weapons of convenience. If a person wants to do damage to himself or others, they will try to find a way to do it. Box cutters took down the World Trade Center and Pentagon on 9/11.”
No cash prize, but who can give the most compelling reason why this is just simply bullshit.
Have at him.
Gav
1612
This must be a troll. This is an argument for gun control – in the country where the guy had a gun, more than 20 people died; in the country where the guy had to resort to a knife nobody died.
Every parent of a Sandy hook child that died would gladly trade the bullet ridden body of their dead child for a knife scarred living body of a child stabbed in China.
Or you could say that Mossad brought down the towers (theres actually a conspiracy theory that links Mossad to sandy hook too)
One would think so, check out the link.
Lot’s of stupid people in my hicktown.
Houngan
1615
Interesting info from a Psychologist:
About 25% of the population in the United States suffers from a diagnosable mental disorder in a given year, yet most people with mental disorders aren’t in treatment. We have to teach people to understand that having gone through some kind of mental health treatment does not brand them as inferior for life.
Some news reports have suggested autism and/or Aspergers as a cause for Adam Lanza’s behavior. These are neurological conditions with little or no research to support any connection between autism and Asperger’s and violence. Where such conditions could have a relation to violence is associated with how people treat people with autism and Asperger’s.
Diagnosis and treatment of mental health problems is not as easy as giving someone as aspirin for a headache. I was once asked by the Seattle King County Criminal Justice System to interview a man in jail. He had a master’s degree and had been an oceanographer, but was homeless and had been breaking into buildings to sleep instead of going to shelters. Why was he breaking into buildings? I asked. Because he heard “voices” telling him to kill the president and he did not want to do this, and he could not get help from the mental health system, he said. Upon questioning him, it turned out that he was a victim of a botched operation to cure his epilepsy and the “president” was actually his image of the doctor who had treated him.
Part of the problem with mental health services dates back to the 1960s and the Great Society Program, which gave us Medicare and Medicaid, and was also supposed to close down many of the large asylums and build community mental health centers. At the University of Oregon in the 1970s, I trained hundreds of people to work in those centers. The asylums were closed, but the community mental health centers that were promised were never built. Government funding for mental health services has only gotten worse in recent years.
Today one of the most pressing mental health problems is the inability of the United States Department of Veterans Affairs (commonly called the VA) to provide effective treatment for military men and women suffering from PTSD. The consequences of this failure include the soaring rate of suicides (which now exceed combat deaths), homicides, and domestic violence among our troops.
I have a dollar for whoever can tell me what I just did there.
Gabrielle Giffords and Mark Kelly published an op-ed today in the USA Today. They don’t pull a lot of punches.
In response to a horrific series of shootings that has sown terror in our communities, victimized tens of thousands of Americans, and left one of its own bleeding and near death in a Tucson parking lot, Congress has done something quite extraordinary — nothing at all.
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Special interests purporting to represent gun owners but really advancing the interests of an ideological fringe have used big money and influence to cow Congress into submission. Rather than working to find the balance between our rights and the regulation of a dangerous product, these groups have cast simple protections for our communities as existential threats to individual liberties. Rather than conducting a dialogue, they threaten those who divert from their orthodoxy with political extinction.
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We saw from the NRA leadership’s defiant and unsympathetic response to the Newtown, Conn., massacre that winning even the most common-sense reforms will require a fight.
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Americans for Responsible Solutions, which we are launching today, will invite people from around the country to join a national conversation about gun violence prevention, will raise the funds necessary to balance the influence of the gun lobby, and will line up squarely behind leaders who will stand up for what’s right.
Will it work? Who knows? But I think they have the right woman for the job as the public face of the organization.
Say, that’s an interesting way to look at it — firearms experience makes him an expert on the effects of policy.
Know who has the most experience with mass murder? Actual mass murderers. If we can find some who survived their rampages, we should hire them as consultants.
Gav
1618
You beat me to it. I was going to suggest that arsonists should write our laws on arson, housebreakers the laws on robbery, and so on.
On the other side, John Kerry (as an example) also has lots of experience with guns. Does his opinion outweigh olaf’s?
Yeah the media push is up big time today after a lot of quiet time for the holidays and fiscal cliff.
I thought the new org was interesting because the people I haven’t heard much from are the Brady Campaign. They’ve done little in the last decade. Few young people probably know who Brady is. Maybe it’s time for the gun control crowd to get a new face. It’s certainly better than creepy old Bloomberg and his transparent attempt to gain power and influence after so many years of being ignored.
The message and tactics don’t appear to be any different though. shrug
Interesting. The manager for the popular Call of Duty Youtube channel FPSRussia was found dead.
Shot in the head.
WarrenM
1621
Sorry if this was already posted but … Daaaaamn…
Ergo
1622
Well, it’s Alex Jones. If Morgan had done any research prior to interviewing him, he would of been warned of what was to come. Jones is a complete lunatic.
Houngan
1623
Didn’t he take over for Art Bell on Coast to Coast, or am I thinking of someone else?
RichVR
1624
That was a guy called Noory. Same crazy, different guy. So far he hasn’t crazy glued his hand to his face. But it’s only a matter of time.
Houngan
1625
Maybe I’m rolling it all together with Bob Jones Ministries. That’s the bad thing about a common name, it has too many associations.
RichVR
1626
Is Bob Jones the lizard people guy?
Edit: Nevermind. I looked it up myself. I have too much free time…
