1827

I think you’re still missing the proposed scheme.

The insurance policy/insurer of the last legal owner of the gun pays out for a once-legal-now-illegal gun. In the percentage where that’s not identifiable, a general industry pool is used. Possible same treatment (general pool) for guns properly reported as lost or stolen. Some sort of penalty or loss of rights for a gun owner or dealer who inordinately gets their guns lost or stolen: certainly at least a premium increase.

It’s insurance. The industry is really, really good at setting up shit like that. Rather, the discussion is more about the policy position about who should bear the cost of gun violence.

1828

Having owned a blowgun I can say that any rules for handguns should be followed for them as well. A six inch carbon steel wire with a razor point and a cup at the other end can easily penetrate to the lung or heart. You were completely correct in the barking.

Edit: As well most people will make the mistake of not putting a bent wire on the cup (mouth end) of a blowgun. Then they make the mistake of inhaling through the tube instead of inhaling before. That ends up as a hospital visit to remove a dart from the trachea. If they are lucky.

1829

Well, New York just passed what the left dreams about, we’ll see how it goes. Quick and dirty:

  1. No more “assault weapons”
  2. No more high capacity magazines (more than 7 rounds)
  3. No more private sales, except to immediate family
  4. No more private ammunition sales
  5. Background checks and records kept for all ammunition purchases
  6. Statewide registration database
  7. Safe storage requirements if you live with a felon, but not if you have children.
1830

The 7 round magazine limit is probably an attempt at a back door ban of existing weapons. Manufacturers will have to decide whether to tool up and create 7 round magazines for popular semi-autos. If not, the guns are useless.

1831

A good start.

1832

I wouldn’t pretend to know what the future has in store in other states, but it seems like they might want to get that production line in place just in case magazine capacity limits spread. I don’t know how long it takes to tool that kind of thing up though.

1833

. . . he says from the murder capital of the US. You know, the one with even more restrictive laws. Logic people, it’s not just for breakfast.

1834

The fantastically stupid part is they also included legislation grandfathering in 10 round magazines, but making it illegal to put more than 7 rounds in them. Gun crime: Solved!

1835

Houngan, we already covered that argument like a dozen pages ago, and it’s still as sound as your Chicago one. We don’t need to keep going around in circles.

Edit: Also I entirely agree that they shouldn’t grandfather anything in.

1836

Haha!

Did NY have an AWB in place already? I ask because if they didn’t, it’s unlikely that many people had 10 round mags to grandfather in.

1837

They did, similar to the Clinton AWB, so there will be plenty of 10 rounders floating about. Honestly the most restrictive thing here is the ammo sale requirement, it should create a wonderful black market in no time.

1838

Or a 10 year nationwide backlog on primers. In the short term, it’s going to be even more inconvenient to find ammo even outside of NY. The panicky people will feel justified even though there’s no chance of it happening at the federal level.

I picked the wrong time to get excited about the shooting sports again. Maybe I’ll take up clays until this blows over.

1839

Can you still get shotgun ammo? I can’t even buy a friggin’ revolver I need for another division.

1840

I saw a couple boxes of 20 gauge last night at Walmart. It was funny seeing only the most obscure calibers still in stock on the shelves. Some guy was there casually buying one box of something no one wanted. Time to build that .22-250!

1841

Time to go get Dad’s varmint guns out of the closet. There was a .222, a .22-250, maybe some other tiny, fast rifles. At the very least if this keeps up I should be able to liquidate my stock and just keep the revolvers, maybe I can retire.

1842

I’m assuming that New York’s 7 round limit would not apply to revolvers? 'Not that I expect a similar ban to ever make it to New Hampshire but I’m still interested in picking up a Smith 627 at some point so I’m curious to know where something like that falls.

1843

I wonder if this would encourage or discourage microstamping.

Long term, those paying out for uninsured claims would want those bullets/casings traced to a gun owner.

1844

I tried reading the legislation, I think it mentions magazines specifically so revolvers would be okay. That is, until they notice that there are 8- and 10-shot revolvers.

1845

As much as I’m all for removing guns from America, some of the arguments on the radio enrage me. Once again last night I’m listening to somebody prattling on about passing laws to make sure the mentally ill can’t buy guns … they don’t buy guns, dipshit. They pick up the guns that the none mentally ill person in the house bought. Herp derp, fuck you! Passing a law that restricts sales to the mentally ill is such a raging waste of time, my brain fucking boils.

1846

Not to get all up in your rage, but the Colorado theater shooter bought his own guns.

For this issue, I think the bigger impact is the lack of mental health diagnosis in the US, but that doesn’t mean legislation further restricting gun purchases by the mentally ill is a total waste of time. Moreover, I care less about legislative time than I do about sapping political will and capital from more meaningful laws. That said, I think gun control is an issue that needs to be eased into and some of the laws, early on, would be more symbolic than truly effective, because that’s all you can do.