Intel also needs to make their own damn GPU chips instead of getting logjammed at TSMC with the rest of their competitors.
Looks like both AMD and Intel will have a boost clock running up to 5.5Ghz this fall.
Aceris
1609
The intel chip can presumably also be used to fry eggs.
I wonder if that’s why they don’t launch in summer.
Liquid Nitrogen cooling , coming soon. :)
Are we at the point where I can use excess cpu/gpu heat to generate steam? I’m ready to hook up a turbine and start generating electricity!
rei
1613
I just upgraded to 5700x from 2700 but the computer got into a crash later the same day and my Noctua heatsink heat pipes got bent so still waiting for insurance adjuster to respond.
Daagar
1614
You might be playing Forza incorrectly.
Rumbles of a 5600X3D and a 5900X3D in the works. The latter with up to 200MB of total cache.
Wild. Supposedly the low-end next-gen Ryzen outperforms the current highest-end Ryzen.
Makes sense, as the 5950x is almost 2 years old.
They skipped the 6xxx series completely?
The 6000 series is Rembrandt (edit - available in laptops)
stusser
1620
Right, 4000 and 6000 series are mobile-only. Confusingly the 5000 series is both, and the 6000s only differ in that they include the RDNA2 iGPU. I hate it when companies pull this crap.
If Zen4 only beats Zen3 by 11% in single-threaded workloads AMD is in for a tough time this generation. Alder Lake beats non-X3D Zen3 by ~17% there and Intel isn’t standing still.
Obviously that 6c/12t Zen4 won’t beat a 5950X in multi-threaded workloads.
stusser
1623
Briefly, the performance gains are pretty good, but the 60% power usage increase is very worrying. My 5950X is theoretically 105w, but it will hit 142w stock. If that holds up for the new chips they’ll use 230w. Like high-end Alder Lake, you’ll reasonably want to have them water cooled with a 360mm radiator.
I guess AMD was threatened, so they tossed power efficiency in the shitter to compete with Intel. I don’t blame them, necessarily, but it’s disappointing.
7700X is clearly the most appropriate gaming CPU here, unless you run professional applications.
I’m encouraged to see the I/O die shrunk, it was 12nm before and used a ton of power for doing nothing much, so that’s a good change.
If you’re thinking about buying Zen4 on release, all I can say is don’t. Zen3 was a complete nightmare, and Zen4 is a new CPU, socket, and chipset. AMD quality control on the software side is awful. Wait at least a month, three is better.
A little bit disappointing that even at the bottom of the stack they’re talking about 105W. Not sure why they talked about an efficiency sweetspot at 65W if nothing is down there. Did I miss something?
stusser
1625
That was comparing efficiency versus Zen3. If you choose to undervolt your CPU, they’re saying you won’t lose much. That’s why I said AMD was threatened. As you increase power, you gain performance of course, but efficiency goes down the toilet. They pumped up the power to annihilate Intel.
Ah. I wonder if that’s painless in AGESA.
