1667

Yep, it was a typo and was supposed to read DDR5 (correctly stated in the video, but they never went back and fixed the chart)

1668

Ahh OK. Didn’t watch it yet.

1669

Hopefully DDR5 prices come down soon along with more affordable mobos. That’s kind of always a problem with a new socket and ram generation.

1670

What’s impressive is how consistent their ST performance is down the stack - really points to the consistency of the N5 process.

Compare to intel where you see big dropoffs in ST performance for the same core architecture as you move down the stack.

Will be interesting to see how it stacks up against Raptor Lake, especially in productivity given the doubled e-core count. Will it be enough to compete with AMD’s 12 and 16 core high end chips? (Which have been the champs for three generations now).

1671

Anything else on this?

1672

No, I would expect it closer to the 13th gen Intel release. That’s AMD’s response.

1673

I do think it’s great that there’s one last hurrah for AM4. My build is 18 months old. I expect it to last a good while. Nice to know there is a bit of an upgrade path, even if it isn’t a huge one.

1674

It’s still just rumor, and there doesn’t appear to be any fresh rumbling about it.

AMD could easily do it, though, since the 5000 series uses TSMC 7, and the 7000 series is on TSMC 5, so it’s not as if they’d cannibalize 7000 series production. And they could cash-in on the significant AM4 install base one last time.

1675

Oh I didn’t even notice those were zen3 parts.

I kinda doubt that’s real.

1676

Even if they don’t, I could always go from 5600x to 5800x3d if I wanted to. But there are a LOT of AM4 boards out there, so I could see those part(s) selling for a long time

1677

Good results from dropping the voltage on Zen 4 apparently.

And he has great hair.

1678

Oh look, they can be bought already in Spain
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Big increase already from 7600x to 7700x, mmm…

1679

Yeah local retailers have those in stock already, it is a really good global launch. Raptor Lake announcement probably was designed to steal the thunder of Zen 4 retail launch, which has the desired effect for me. I’d probably wait until next year when there is proper independent review of both camps, and kinks ironed out.

Feels good that there is proper sustained competition in CPU market.

1680

For gaming it’s a good idea to wait more yep, if only because some benchmarks will show more clearly what cpu is best once the reviewers have rtx 4090s to avoid gpu bottlenecks in some games. Steve from GamerNexus commented it, how in games like CP77 most highend cpus have a very small % difference because even at 1080p it’s gpu dependant.

1681
1682

That’s . . . not a bad deal, and makes those ridiculously over-priced motherboards a little more palatable.

1683

So, yeah, apparently demand is low. The PC market was already crashing from the record-sales set during the pandemic, and there are a ton of factors in play causing demand to crater. The global economy, energy prices, inflation, everyone bought new machines or upgraded during the pandemic, etc.

Also, making the entry-level X670 boards double the price of their X570 counterparts isn’t helping. And having to buy new RAM.

1684

The AMD v3d Cache stuff. What kinds of games benefit from that most? I thought I’d read twitch or fps games, but I wondered about games like X4 which are heavily cpu bound, or Warhammer 3?

1685

I don’t know anyone who would get it and play at 1080

I think you should skip it

1686

Fascinating. Thank you for those.