Wow, very impressive.
MSFS, on the resolution of my monitor:
I wish they tested on Ultra, which is the setting I play on, instead of just high. I get about 15-20 fps on my 5600X.
That’ll be your GPU though. I get twice (?) that with a 5600X at 3440x1440. (3070 GPU)
Actually it’s more the lack of good fan on my 5600X. I hit 98 degrees Centigrade immediately, and performance throttling makes it really bad.
You sure that isn’t a thermal paste problem? The stock fan for 5600x is decent, iirc.
Maybe see if Eco mode does anything? I just turned that on and I’m at about 55C.
Aleck
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98 degrees is crazy high. My 5600X barely hits 60 when gaming/running benchmarks. I’m not using the stock fan, but even with the stock fan I rarely got about 70.
Which games? Most GPU bound games I play like Metro Exodus, Watch Dogs Legion, Far Cry games, and must other stuff doesn’t go that high. But MSFS, CPU bound, gets that hot almost immediately, as does Elden Ring. I played 100 hours of Elden Ring pinging around 98 degrees, suffering the stupid stuttering. I hate it. I’ll go back to the game eventually, but ideally after I’ve gotten over my laziness and installed liquid cooling on the CPU.
What’s this? I’ve never heard of Eco mode.
stusser
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Caps the highest-end 7000 CPUs to 142w and the lower-end ones to 65w, basically. Voltage curves and custom PBO settings will be better.
5600x is already 65w, right?
Aleck
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Unfortunately I don’t have Elden Ring or MSFS, so I can’t compare directly. What do your idle temps look like?
It said something like Eco mode (45W) in my BIOS settings.
@Rock8man - it’s a simpler switch for the various undervolting options for your CPU. It lives in BIOS, or maybe settable in Ryzen Master.
Idle looks like around 55-60 tonight. Around 72-80 when I’m watching Youtube, which fires up some CPU cores a LOT, but others very little.
Microsoft Flight Simulator and Assetto Corsa Competizione. There are a few others that benefit measurably, but those are the two that see substantial meaningful gains, even on triple screen resolutions. They are, not coincidentally, both hardcore simulators.
That seems awfully high to me, but I’m no expert and don’t use the stock cooler.
Aleck
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Yikes. I’ve got the same CPU, but I’m using a 240mm liquid cooler, rather than the stock cooler.
In comparison, I’m idling in the mid 30s and watching youtube takes me up into the low 40s (with a spike to around 52 when the browser launched, dropping right back afterwards). None of the cores went past the mid 40s while watching youtube. I haven’t enabled eco mode, as far as I can remember, but it’s possible I did that back when I built the system last year.
I would definitely look at upgrading your cooling. It’s doubtful you’re damaging the processor, but you’re also probably not getting all the performance out of it under load due to thermal throttling.
Stumbled upon this a little late, but I would immediately suspect a thermal paste issue as others have suggested; even on the stock cooler, it shouldn’t ever be pinging 98° unless one or more of the following things is true;
- you’ve managed to seriously overclock the CPU (in which case you shouldn’t be using the stock cooler)
- you keep the PC in an extremely poorly ventilated area (in which case you’re probably sweating while gaming)
- there’s an issue with ventilation in your PC case, itself
- your thermal paste needs to be re-applied
- your fan curves are broken, causing the fan to only spin when it throttles
New AMD chipset drivers are out (Win10, 64bit):
https://www.amd.com/en/support/chipsets/amd-socket-am4/b550
AMD Chipset Drivers
Revision Number
4.09.23.507
File Size
53 MB
Release Date
10/12/2022
Nice, thanks! Might mess with them this weekend.
So I spent last 30 minutes updating my BIOS to get the board ready for 5800X3D and god damn, I completely forgot how with the default “optimized settings” the fan curve on the CPU fan is 100% annoying as fuck, with fan speed constantly going up and down. And this is the default behavior with stock cooler, which I find mindblowing - like if I was a layperson who bought a new PC and it did this, and I had no idea how to fix it, I would return that shit in a heartbeat.
Also, the process of updating BIOS on Gigabyte is annoying as hell too, because you have to go version by version and they also write you have to run “EC FW Update Tool” which apparently updates some embedded controller firmware…and how it works is, you run the tool, it runs, then it crashes hard shuts down your PC without any information or message, then PC starts, and…there is no signal in either TV or monitor I have connected.
How wonderfully user friendly!
So it requires hard shutdown, unplug cable, wait for the CMOS or whatever to empty, start the PC again which kicks in the primary bios again, and then you can continue updating.
And the tool even has no readme, or anything at all. Like who needs it, right?
