The 7600x is 30% off in Amazon (at least on my country), making it a good option.
It’s certainly gonna be my next CPU.
Qmanol
1790
Finally, an upgrade option that ticks all the boxes and should last me half a decade. Probably wait a bit for MB and RAM prices to come down a little more, but I can now get rid of the i7-8700.
Just a shame about GPUs. The 6700 10gb I just bought wasn’t quite what I really wanted, but it’ll have to do.
Curious; if one was building a higher-end system and using the 7800X3D, would you opt for water or air cooling?
I would never use water. Air is almost as good and doesn’t degrade. If that means my CPU clocks 200MHz slower so be it, you’d never notice anyway.
JMR
1793
Is it best to wait a few months before buying a new CPU such as the 7800X3D so you avoid getting a defective chip from the first manufactured batch?
Not that I’ve ever heard; on the flipside, early BIOS and driver versions are always more likely to cause headaches, but they get fixed over time.
Tim_N
1795
I would imagine the 7800X3D would have less teething pains than the 7900/7950x3d, as it is a single CCD and there’s no drivers or xbox game bar to decide which workload should go on which core.
I always give new hardware a little room to work out what was rushed. If it’s not hardware quirks it’s software or compatibility. Unless your system died on you or you can’t find the time to buy it later no reason to be a test case.
Dejin
1797
How long do you recommend waiting?
2 months is my rule of thumb. Long enough for things to be addressed but not too long I should wait for the next newest thing to tempt me to wait.
Daagar
1799
I thought that once upon a time at least, earlier batches of chips had a higher chance of being more overclockable and the like because quality control was cranked super high until they were confident (and this is where lots of the lower end chips came from - binned from higher end that didn’t pass quality control). Is no longer (or more likely was never) a thing?
That hasn’t been a thing for a very long time now, no. Better silicon is binned higher, and they simply charge more to compensate. You’ll probably find better quality silicon later on in the cycle when the process and manufacturing is more mature, but then you butt up against the next generation anyway.
Holy crap. No Asus motherboards for me.
JMR
1803
I got my new 7900X3D system up and running right when these reports started coming up. I updated my Gigabyte board to the latest BIOS and on the same day noticed that Gigabyte pulled several BIOS’ including the one I just flashed to. I adjusted the SOC voltage and downgraded the BIOS so hopefully I’m safe.
Whoa. It might be a small number of cases, but it does make you look at AM5 a bit suspiciously.
abrandt
1805
Seemingly just been the X3D versions, right? I have a 7700 on a Gigabyte board but noticed that the BIOS I’m using is no longer available from them. I upgraded to that BIOS because I WAS having problems that I actually suspected was from voltages going too low causing random shutdowns(only ever while the computer was idling) that didn’t BSOD or register any sort of fault in Windows, it just acted like the hardware restart switch was pressed.
JMR
1806
I think the X3D versions are more at risk for this.
Also Gigabyte, and probably others anyway, but Asus seems to have more design flaws. The X3D chips are running more on the power/thermal limit, so they’re at the highest risk, but I would think any of the Ryzen 7000 CPUs are capable of these failures in principle, since they’re designed to run right up to their thermal limit before throttling to stay in equilibrium.
