4036

Not sure what you mean exactly - I always use the dedicated ||| android button to show currently running apps on my phone (but I don’t know how common that is across all models of phone - might be a Samsung thing?). That said, the MS launcher has an expanded dock area which allows you to drop an extra 5 icons in there when you swipe up from the bottom of the screen. That may be what’s tripping you up. You can disable this expanded area functionality via launcher settings > dock > swipe up to expand dock. Or you can change the swipe up gesture via launcher settings > gestures.

Edit: fyi for those unaware, there are a lot of different launchers. I like the MS one because I use a lot of MS apps and it integrates well with them, as you’d expect. But if it that’s not a need for you, or the UI isn’t quite what you want there are plenty others.

4037

Ah, I’m using the default gestures.

Put your finger on the bottom black edge. Drag it to the middle of the screen. The app will minimize, and you will see a list of all open applications. It’s like pressing ALT-TAB in windows.

I have no problem doing it from a fullscreen app. I can’t seem to do it when I’m scrolling the “desktop”

Okay I disabled the dock and I still can’t get it to work.

So let’s say you are in the desktop and you want to go back to a specific app. How do you do it? Do you go hunt down the icon and click it?

Found real answer:

Swipe up from the bottom, hold, then let go.

4038

Yikes, the Samsung trade-in offers are not very good for the first time in a long time (in the USA). You now have to go through a carrier to get the best trade-in, and then the carrier provides a bill reduction. I’m not even certain that you can purchase a carrier based phone with a Samsung finance credit this time. Will be interesting to see if this impacts sales because I have zero interest in an AT&T credit for trade-in.

4039

On Fi I can upgrade from a 128GB S21 to a 256GB S23 for 30 bucks by preordering. Most of that is with the preorder discount though - they’re only offering $270 trade-in for my S21.

Still, for 30 bucks I’m probably going to jump two gens. Will have to take a closer look at the spec differences before deciding… but it seems like a no-brainer.

4040

Phone manufacturers all got shocked last year by how much new device sales dropped. People apparently want phones that last 5+ years and not to get a new one every 2-3 as the pace of development has stabilized and people are realizing that a 3-4 year old phone is perfectly usable. Having an old phone doesn’t mean missing out on a bunch of cool new features like it did early in the smartphone day. Basically the same thing that happened to the PC market after the heady rush of the 80’s and 90’s.

4041

Your post made me check what they are offering for my wife’s Galaxy S20 5G. $153 for the trade-in.

So upgrading her S20 to S23, including taxes, will be about $173. Not bad at all. I sent her the suggestion, I’ll see if she wants to upgrade. She’s pretty happy with her S20, but maybe she’ll want to upgrade?

Edit: And ordered. Tax was less than I thought. $170 upgrade going from S20 5G → S23. Not bad at all.

4042

I ordered a lime green 512GB Ultra, trading in my idle 14 Pro Max. I doubt it’ll supplant my Fold 4, but it’s worth a tinker. $720 trade on the iPhone, with some other discounts on top.

4043

Really like that feature of taking an object from the photo and removing the background in the ultra.

Though for all I know that feature was also in my previous device, I never pay attention to all those features.

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4044

I ended up getting the Pixel 6 for about $350 new as I just fancied a change from my 2.5year old P30 Pro.

The battery life is indeed noticeably worse than the 2.5year old P30 Pro on its original battery, but the general smoothness & stock android makes up for it. Definitely a sidegrade rather than an upgrade, which is quietly damning.

4045

How long have you been using the phone? I’m on my second Pixel (4XL, then 6), and I find the adaptive battery tech takes a few weeks to “learn” your usage pattern. What seems like poor power management will be forgotten entirely after a short time using the device.

I’m a big fan of the Pixel phones.

4046

7 weeks! Also checked settings and read a few posts about possible culprits and all evidence suggests that Pixels continue to be poor for battery life compared to Samsung, Huawei or Apple. I should note, I have 5G disabled too which should improve battery life further - and don’t use any sort of always on display.

4047

My Galaxy S23 Ultra arrived yesterday. Fast phone, great screen (even if it defaulted to max at 60Hz… silly Samsung but easy setting change for 120) but it’s going up against the fold4. We’ll see.

4048

I wonder how much that has to do with “optimization” - the overly aggressive sleeping of processes and the entire system on Samsung that leads to push notifications being delayed when you aren’t actively using the phone. Personally I’d take the shorter battery life every time over my notifications being hours late; I’m ending the day at 30-40% battery anyway.

4049

I am JUST dealing with this nonsense.

I had zenfone 2, ancient phone, for 7 years, whatsapp and gmail notifications always arrived instantly.

Now I have Motorola G72 with Android 12, and whatsapp and gmail notifications arrive almost always either late, or only when I unlock the phone.

This is insane. Like, unusable. How do I fix this? Why is it like this, by default no less? How can anyone accept this?

4050

I wish I knew! For added annoyance the notifications all seem to barrel in right as you’re trying to manage one that’s already there. The result being it goes flying off into the ether and you dismiss a notification you haven’t even read.

There’s a setting under Battery → Background Usage Limits that’s supposed to stop apps from going to sleep or deep sleep but it doesn’t stop this behavior for me. If you’re having the issue on Motorola it must be Android to blame and not Samsung.

Regardless, I hate it. I’m paying for a giant battery, let me use it! Notifications about <streamer> going live, or a sporting event about to start don’t help when they’re coming through hours after the fact.

4051

I’ve been lucky enough to not have that on either the P30 Pro (but it was Android 10, thanks Huawei) or the Pixel. The Pixel has killed Poweramp Pro while in use a couple of times despite my having battery settings to always let it run 🤷‍♂️

4052

The Verge gave it a 9, which I think is the highest score it’s given a galaxy phone. I am now curious, hehe.

4053

This is a pretty amazing deal:

4054

Yeah that does not solve it.

I googled and apparently some feature called “doze mode” is responsible, just killing access of apps to internet if the phone is idle for “too long”.

And apparently it can only be disabled via some adb commands from powershell or whatever, and it reactivates on every restart of the phone. Fuck google, seriously. I loathe apple but this shit kinda almost makes me want to swich.

4055

If you look at your phone every 10 minutes like God intended, it’s no problemo!

Seriously, though, I hate when I get a call from someone saying “I’m following up on the email/message/whatever I sent since I haven’t heard back”. Confused, I open my phone to pull up my email and then I get the notification. Thanks, phone. Kind of defeats the purpose of a notification if I have to look at the app to get it.