Question - is the loot he was grinding something you can acquire through micro transactions? Or can you only earn it from these types of in-game loot chests?
No, the only micro transaction stuff is cosmetics. There are no cosmetics in chests (yet…will be soon).
I’m extra confused why Bioware would care. It doesn’t interfere with their money making schemes and they brought the drop rates down, in line with what they claim they always intended them to be at. So a bunch of people got a bunch of extra stuff for a day? It’s all PVE content, from what I’ve read, why would anyone care? Care enough to ban someone, especially?
Scott, that’s not why he was banned. He was using multiple exploits, including intentionally dying repeatedly by jumping into the lava in the Heart of Rage stronghold in order to repeatedly open a chest. Repeatedly. There might have been repetition of some kind involved.
Even if you don’t consider that an issue, you don’t see the problem with streaming that so other people knew to do it?
Oghier
2048
He was cheating and streaming it. Yeah, that’s nonsense :)\
These guys weren’t just wandering the world opening chests. There were exploits to respawn chests (and end bosses) in strongholds, and another to respawn an ursix boss in one mission. Several people got banned for doing a lot of that.
Oghier
2049
Microtransactions are purely cosmetics. There’s no ‘loot.’ And there are no cosmetics in-game yet (they are coming to Strongholds, though)
Had it freeze in the ui several times, only thing that worked was switching between mk/controller (to see the buttons change from esc to A, etc…), nothing else wouldn react to keypresses/clicks.
That extended angryjoe video about Anthem was spot on.
Edit: Banning for opening chests to get duplicate masterworks with shit rolls in a pve game without any competitive elements, boo-hoo. Total BS. The reason for the ban is more likely because it (too) made bioware look incompetent that they hadn’t playtested and restricted such things beforehand, as it is a tried and tested method in several games to get extra loot – except in most games the extra loot would be good enough to only do it a few times.
A good sanity test before banning anyone should be - Did this negatively affect anyone? If the only ones ‘negatively affected’ by whatever the player did, are the developers, because a player did something they did not intend him to do, then no - that doesn’t earn a ban.
I had it freeze right now. In the middle of the first mission after the tutorial, game froze completely and the image would not disappear from the screen. Had to open task manager on my second monitor and close it from there.
Wow he made a 2nd video and its freaking 70 minutes long, after already having an initial 50 minute review video. Is the extended video worth watching?
I was watching it while playing Anthem, since I had the sound bug and couldn’t hear anything in game anyway. Figured I’d have one last stab at loot before loading up warframe.
It was ok, nothing much new in it. They talked some about the E3 reveal video and how different it was from the released game, but if you’ve played the game up to “endgame” there wasn’t much in terms of reveals there, more confirmation that your own observations/experiences were accurate - I suppose. We’ll see if Bioware manages to do a 1.8 to salvage the game, but with Division 2 coming out soon, I wonder if they have the time.
KevinC
2054
Every single MP game would ban over exploits like this. Blizzard banned people exploiting raid content or botting or using powerleveling and gold selling “services” all the time, despite those things only affecting the PVE side of the game. Didn’t Blizzard ban people from Diablo as well?
You may not be interested in a MP game, but that’s what this is. This is also a loot chasing game. Gamers in these games follow the path of least resistance, tell me what happens when everyone (figuratively) uses this exploit and obtains everything they want in the game in fairly short order? They stop playing (and probably immediately head to the forums to whine about lack of content, to boot).
Now, what if you’re someone playing by the rules? Well now the matchmaking population for the middle stages of the game is getting thin, making it harder for you to get into missions and strongholds so you can work your way through the game. They’re also wondering why they’re trying to work their way through difficult missions to get better loot when they can just exploit and get to the end like everyone else. A low population is a deathknell to any game like this, and if you short circuit the core gameplay loop to get to the end of the loot chase there’s no longer any reason for people to continue playing.
The dude should absolutely have been banned. Good riddance.
Pretty sure Bungie doesn’t.
Having shitty matchmaking, bugged encounters and broken loot isn’t the fault of the players.
Let me ask this, just because I’m not super close to this topic and don’t have any dogs in this race - did the community know this was an exploit during the day it was happening? Or only suspect? Was it announced by the devs “Hey, this is being fixed, don’t do this while we work on it or you could be banned”? Was there any sort of warning that bans could occur if this behavior continued?
Oghier
2057
Who knows what lurks in the hearts of men?
But in all seriousness, they should have known. If you find an exploit to respawn a loot chest over and over, without having to re-run the mission, that’s obviously unintended behavior. There’s no chance you could feel, “that’s how loot is supposed to be awarded.” Streamers who demonstrate and encourage are experienced gamers. They can’t claim ignorance. They just wanted the clicks.
Some people take the position that anything permitted by game mechanics is legitimate, that cheating is limited to actual data hacks. I disagree with those people, and most game devs seem to disagree as well.
I am surprised that the willingly credulous take banned people at their word. “I wasn’t cheating, I did nothing wrong but got banned” is true sometimes. But not usually.
You keep saying stuff like this. I really don’t think this had anything to do with GM3 chest runs or the day loot had higher drops for 11hours. Tons of people who were already at endgame were doing that and I haven’t seen anyone else on the forums complaining about getting banned for it.
This had everything to do with either the heart of rage exploit or the fact they were streaming all of this stuff.
Not sure why a loot exploit matters in a 100% PvE game.
My guess is that this has to do with the pc Bluetooth implementation and drivers, firmware interfering with CPU cycles.
It’s ridiculous you can’t listen to the radio serials in your javelin in freeplay. In fact the javelins should have radio stations like GTA.
That would be amazing. Hell, I’d love to participate in a internet radio station for people to listen to.
I don’t consider that an issue, and I don’t see the problem with streaming it so other people knew how to do it.
