Anyone else playing Demon's Souls?

ckessel · 2009-12-27T23:52:45.000Z

Eightball:

The other thing is that dodging is really easy and fairly forgiving, because you’re invulnerable during the animation; it’s not like parrying.

I don’t think that’s true about being invulnerable while dodging. Flamelurker has killed me repeatedly while I’m dodging.

roguefrog · 2009-12-28T00:16:05.000Z

Flamelurker is weak to magic damage. Try summoning in help?

Equis · 2009-12-28T00:20:04.000Z

Soul arrow is your friend against Flamelurker. Even at the lowest possible level you get for it. One hand with the wand, one hand with the shield. Also, possibly get the Water Veil spell to increase your fire resistance.

Alex_Pirani · 2009-12-28T00:44:23.000Z

Been making some progress the last few days. Killed Miralda today, was hoping she would drop her axe, but wasn’t the case. Also beat the Tower Knight and killed the dragon by the bridge before him. This game feels incredibly rewarding.

Quick question about the ring Miralda drops, says it increases direct hit damage but reduces other damage. Is this damage I receive, deal, or both?

ckessel:

Man, for a game that’s gotten a lot of love, it has some mind bogglingly huge flaws. I spent about 2 hours running around in 3-1 unable to find a key to unlock a gate. It’s on a dead body…one of hundreds of dead bodies you come across. This one dead body was in what looked like a field of death from an arrow trap/monster, so I left it alone.

Now I’m up against Flamelurker and I’ve died about 20 times. Each time followed by an incredibly annoying trip back to try and fight him again. Not sure what to do to beat him. He’s fast, I can’t really stay out of his way. I’ve got the flame shield, but I can’t find a spot safe enough to ever heal or restore my magic. I’ve spent 3 hours constantly dying and spending the 5 minutes over and over and over doing the god awful annoying “10 drops to the bottom of a pit” puzzle.

Seriously, make the boss hard, fine, but why punish the player with a 5 minute run back to the damn thing every time?

Edit: Well, damn, that just about tears it for this game. I’m completely out of mana and healing stuff and I still haven’t killed Flamelurker. I’d have to go grind for a couple hours just to get the goods to spend another couple hours trying again to to kill this guy. I’ve checked the cheats/walkthroughs and I seem to have the right stuff on hand. It just requires a more skilled action gamer than me I guess.

Go to a different area and try to progress in those. Gather some souls and increase your soul level, and try again later. One thing I’ve definitely been learning about this game is, the general consensus you get on how to kill something doesn’t always work for everybody.

Jarmo · 2009-12-28T00:55:51.000Z

Alex Pirani:

Quick question about the ring Miralda drops, says it increases direct hit damage but reduces other damage. Is this damage I receive, deal, or both?

Only the damage you deal, on a direct hit only.

Hanacker · 2009-12-28T00:57:36.000Z

Flamelurker is the hardest boss in the game, imo. Skip him for now or summon help if you’re having trouble.

Jarmo · 2009-12-28T01:02:52.000Z

It’s possible to kill Flamelurker with no risk and no action skills. The tactic (the one before the last).

Jab · 2009-12-28T01:32:00.000Z

ckessel:

Edit: Well, damn, that just about tears it for this game. I’m completely out of mana and healing stuff and I still haven’t killed Flamelurker. I’d have to go grind for a couple hours just to get the goods to spend another couple hours trying again to to kill this guy. I’ve checked the cheats/walkthroughs and I seem to have the right stuff on hand. It just requires a more skilled action gamer than me I guess.

Flame lurker is always a pain in the ass. One thing about dodging his attacks, are you evading backwards or to the side? I’ve found it easier to dodge by rolling to the side as some of his attacks create explosions in front of him. Soul arrow as said already is excellent against him. I remember for my fight with the purple flame shield equipped, I put warding on to also help.

Deadbuffalo · 2009-12-28T04:37:49.000Z

It’s interesting to see all these different strategies for Flamelurker. I beat him with just straight melee with the purple flame shield and winged spear. I’m pretty sure you have a healing window when he is yelling and bursting in flames. It was a really long fight, but once you recognize the patterns and when it is ok to attack, it is pretty straightforward. Make sure you’re below the half equip burden for fast dodging/running. To echo others though, if you’re frustrated with a boss, go try one of the other levels.

And yeah, that is probably the worst or second worst boss run in the game.

merryprankster · 2009-12-28T05:01:45.000Z

ckessel, use a Stone of Ephemeral eyes right before the fog to Flamelurker (this will reduce the chance of black soul invasion), then summon some help. Flamelurker is dramatically easier with even just one blue soul.

Out of curiosity have you completed 1-2 yet. If so go the the Tower Knight archstone and backstab the 2 blue eyed knights, that should net you enough souls for all the supplies you need in a couple minutes.

ckessel · 2009-12-28T10:02:27.000Z

roguefrog:

Flamelurker is weak to magic damage. Try summoning in help?

Not sure I understand summoning. Is it the multiplayer coop game? I’m a single player exclusively kind of guy, so the thought didn’t even occur to me to try and play it multiplayer.

I finally beat Flamelurker. I was using Soul Ray, I just couldn’t stay alive long enough to do much. The key ended up being DO NOT DODGE! Ever. Flamelurker would do one of his attacks mid-dodge and kill me. As long as I just backpedaled and circled with my Purple Flame shield up, it wasn’t too bad. I still died about another 5 times as I’d get caught with the shield down trying to heal up or get more magic.

I’m happy to have beaten him, but to be honest, I’m not sure if I actually had any fun in the process. I’m getting that a lot with Demon’s Souls. A sense of completion and relief it’s done rather than a sense of enjoyment. We’ll see how the next couple levels play out.

quatoria · 2009-12-28T10:40:11.000Z

Is the pure white event still going on? I haven’t logged in since the pure black event, and just totally spaced on taking advantage of this event for the few pure whites I still needed.

Eightball · 2009-12-28T15:14:55.000Z

ckessel:

I finally beat Flamelurker. I was using Soul Ray, I just couldn’t stay alive long enough to do much. The key ended up being DO NOT DODGE! Ever. Flamelurker would do one of his attacks mid-dodge and kill me.

Interesting. I fought him with shield and spear, and relied on dodging most of the time. Aside from his AoE attack, which takes him awhile to cast, I could dodge his attacks all day long. The AoE would disrupt the dodge, however.

Flamelurker is by far the most cheesiest boss in the game imho. Though for some unknown reason I have real problems with the leech guy from 5-1…

quatoria · 2009-12-28T17:33:41.000Z

Eightball:

Interesting. I fought him with shield and spear, and relied on dodging most of the time. Aside from his AoE attack, which takes him awhile to cast, I could dodge his attacks all day long. The AoE would disrupt the dodge, however.

Flamelurker is by far the most cheesiest boss in the game imho. Though for some unknown reason I have real problems with the leech guy from 5-1…

Really? I stood at long range and plinked him with flaming arrows - he never even got a chance to hit me or, well, do anything.

Hanacker · 2009-12-28T17:43:38.000Z

Is flaming arrows a bug or an intended feature? Should I feel bad about using it?

Lizard_King · 2009-12-28T18:33:53.000Z

quatoria:

Is the pure white event still going on? I haven’t logged in since the pure black event, and just totally spaced on taking advantage of this event for the few pure whites I still needed.

It’s over, now.

ckessel · 2009-12-28T18:38:21.000Z

quatoria:

Really? I stood at long range and plinked him with flaming arrows - he never even got a chance to hit me or, well, do anything.

Not sure how you managed that. That was my goal initially, but he’s just constantly moving at me, attacking, in my face. Once in a while he’d run off and ponder for 5 seconds or something and I’d be able to heal and take a spice potion, but otherwise he was just constantly on top of me.

Equis · 2009-12-28T18:41:39.000Z

Demon’s Soul winning the GOTY at gamespot seems to be inflaming the majority of my friends who have preferred Modern Warfare 2, Uncharted 2 or Assassin’s Creed II to win instead.

Lizard_King · 2009-12-28T19:35:00.000Z

ckessel:

Not sure how you managed that. That was my goal initially, but he’s just constantly moving at me, attacking, in my face. Once in a while he’d run off and ponder for 5 seconds or something and I’d be able to heal and take a spice potion, but otherwise he was just constantly on top of me.

I believe that reference was to the leechmonger boss, not flamelurker. Flamelurker can get stuck on pieces of his level, like the beginning of the stairs or the ribcage, but it’s not a reliable event like leechmonger being unable to hit you at the beginning of his level and well within arrow range.

roguefrog · 2009-12-28T23:30:43.000Z

Equis:

Demon’s Soul winning the GOTY at gamespot seems to be inflaming the majority of my friends who have preferred Modern Warfare 2, Uncharted 2 or Assassin’s Creed II to win instead.

Your friends are dumb?

Seriously though, Demon’s Souls is an amazing game and is probably my personal GotY beating out Dragon Age - which definitely should NOT have happened, but it did!