Ascension - Qt3 league

Lantz · 2013-07-30T14:10:30.000Z

I would lean towards banishing the Trickster, because fuck that card. We have a better shot at Akham->Nemesis than he does. Kind of depends on what replaces it, but I would SCE the stag and draw it

opkopk · 2013-07-30T14:10:43.000Z

Dave Perkins:

opk for mvp!

I’m into it now… I want to pull this thing out of the ditch.

mctwitch78 · 2013-07-30T14:14:19.000Z

opkopk:

I’m into it now… I want to pull this thing out of the ditch.

I still think you are grasping this from the jaws of victory down into the pit of despair. But I might be biased.

Gus_Smedstad1 · 2013-07-30T14:15:29.000Z

Banish Nemesis. This isn’t about what we’re afraid he’ll take. It’s the card on the board we’d have the most trouble taking ourselves.
See if what replaces it is worth SCE’ing.
If it’s crap or a monster, Buy Guardian of Sardanis.
If it’s still not worth taking with Stone Circle Elder, Play Elder Skeptic.

opkopk · 2013-07-30T14:15:30.000Z

mctwitch78:

I still think you are grasping this from the jaws of victory down into the pit of despair. But I might be biased.

The raw information can’t hurt, the advice may very will kill us.

opkopk · 2013-07-30T14:28:11.000Z

Jake’s draw pile before he drew these five:
3 Apprentices
1 Militia
2 Honey Sirens
1 Belthar Soul Collector
1 Spider Witch
1 Battery Monk
1 Synchronizer (unmounted)
1 Arha Medium
1 Heavy Infantry
1 Lunar Stag
1 Great Omen Raven

opkopk · 2013-07-30T14:30:55.000Z

Our draw pile:
3 apprentices
1 Heavy Infantry

CLWheeljack · 2013-07-30T14:32:48.000Z

I hate Tarik, too, but with this center, he’s a big nothingburger. IIRC, there’s nothing of interest in the void, so Nemesis is a sack of Honor, but not much else.

I would probably banish Akam, but I’m not married to it. Given Jake’s paucity of power, I could even agree to banishing the grease monk.
I would also save the skeptic until after we banish, so we can decide whether there’s somethign worth trying to draw right away with the SCE.

Also, I’m craaaaaazy, but I’d consider buying the Guardian of Sadranis to try to get something to use the SCE on if the banish doesn’t give anything of interest.

Edit: Hey, Gus is crazy like me!

soondifferent · 2013-07-30T14:42:20.000Z

mctwitch78:

Akram might be reachable soon for us and if its not we can banish with the other askara. Nemesis is begging for more trouble if he gets the right soul gem and uses after we banish Akram.

A fair point! I forgot about his spider witch. I’m still not comfortable that he won’t be able to nab Akram or Nemesis in this round. He has two upcoming Honey witches that he can force a HI draw. He has two draw cards available this round (monk and raven.) Nemesis is still harder for him to achieve, and if we nuke Akram and he manages Nemesis anyway, that’s only a 3 honor difference. I’m sticking with Akram!

Meanwhile, I don’t think either of them are reachable by us without more HI, and I think we should keep our deck trim.

opkopk · 2013-07-30T14:43:26.000Z

ugh-- silly double post

opkopk · 2013-07-30T14:46:35.000Z

K, I’ve looked at it and I think I got it now.

Play Elder Skeptic, discard apprentice (drawing APP + either APP or HI)
Play an Apprentice, Buy the Guardian (great card for us)
Play the Askara, banish the Grease Monk

Two new cards in middle. Hopefully something pops out for our SCE.
If we drew HI, kill cultist. Hopefully we didn’t and just toss an Apprentice.
Worst case new HI on top of deck.
Real worst case would be more Constructs. Best case would be another SCE or Monsters.

mctwitch78 · 2013-07-30T14:51:15.000Z

I understand I’m in the minority but using the askara banish on a grease monk on this board is crazy. No constructs are around and we can banish easily any that appear within a turn. Let him have the glorified apprentice.

opkopk · 2013-07-30T14:52:55.000Z

mctwitch78:

I understand I’m in the minority but using the askara banish on a grease monk on this board is crazy. No constructs are around and we can banish easily any that appear within a turn. Let him have the glorified apprentice.

We don’t care about his cards. He can do whatever he wants now. We’re trying to win. We need all the monsters we can kill. And heroes to SCE.

Gus_Smedstad1 · 2013-07-30T14:53:38.000Z

Banishing the Grease Monk over Nemesis is giving up 3 points for no real reason. We’re not going to have the power to kill Nemesis ourselves any time soon.

As you pointed out, we don’t have anything exciting to draw. Neither Heavy Infantry or an Apprentice helps our hand much. So delaying the Skeptic until the last possible moment that we can use it in combination with the Stone Circle Elder works better.

opkopk · 2013-07-30T14:57:03.000Z

Gus_Smedstad:

Banishing the Grease Monk over Nemesis is giving up 3 points for no real reason. We’re not going to have the power to kill Nemesis ourselves any time soon.

those monsters are cards that help us. Banishing for 3 stars now is silly. We will kill them. He can’t and can’t banish them.

Gus_Smedstad1 · 2013-07-30T15:05:14.000Z

There will be other monsters. 3 points beats no points.

scottagibson · 2013-07-30T15:05:51.000Z

1) Take the Guardian. It’s a useful card, and what’s under it may be worth using the SCE for.

2) Then banish Akam. Of the two dangerous monsters, he’s cheaper and more likely to end up in Jake’s hand. See what’s under him. If it’s good, and the SCE hasn’t been used, use it.

3) Then play the skeptic, and see what we draw.

4) If there’s nothing else good, take an HI.

opkopk · 2013-07-30T15:07:10.000Z

scottagibson:

3) Then play the skeptic, and see what we draw.

Our draw is either APP APP or APP HI. We can plan for either.

prolix · 2013-07-30T15:07:56.000Z

Lantz:

I would lean towards banishing the Trickster, because fuck that card.

I don’t agree, but I have to admit your logic is persuasive.

opkopk · 2013-07-30T15:08:04.000Z

Gus_Smedstad:

There will be other monsters. 3 points beats no points.

if they were small monsters I might agree. They’re the reason we went 3 HI back there. He can’t banish them or kill them. He wants them gone.