Yes, their treatment of these historical figures is debatable, but then, we know very little about these folks as to their day to day personalities or behaviors, really. I rather liked their treatment of Socrates. When I teach Republic, my students agree that Socrates, as smart as he is, is something of an asshole.

I love Alkibiades. He cracks me up.

Testikles was my favorite, he wanted the oils!

That quest was fun, although I’ll admit I was pretty annoyed that I did all of that faffing around just to end up competing myself anyway - which I predicted as soon as “winning the Olympics” was first mentioned.

Also, there’s this fantastic piece of work -

What is that, Socrates lecturing Charon? That’s hilarious.

“In retrospect, I have concluded that one shouldn’t drink the hemlock.”

Socrates and Alcibades.

I remember the cave analogy in The Republic and being super impressed with it at the time (maybe freshmen year of HS?). Then I read Nicomachean Ethics and Aristotle is like “Socrates and Plato are full of shit, things are clearly relative, there is no ‘perfect’ form.”

Talk about your one generation changes. Then one generation later that boy from Macedonia is like “hold my beer” and sets out to prove nothing really matters, all fall before the sword.

The Ancient Greeks sure were colorful!

Indeed. I’ve been reading this summer some stuff about the end of Alexander’s empire, and it would make a great modern TV miniseries.

Best I could do without fiddling too much:

I’ve always found it interesting how Renaissance artists coming along after the Greeks portrayed their helmets and how they wore them totally wrong. A popular helmet was the Corinthian helm, the classic helmet you see in the game and movies - enclosed around the head with sort of a T shaped slot for the eyes and nose/mouth. When not in combat the Greeks would tilt the helmet back on their head like above, so that it was just easier to see, hear and talk, and probably a lot more comfortable overall.

But as you can see above the artist has created a helmet that you can only wear tilted back. There is no slot for the eyes, nose and mouth. There’s no way you could lower this and fit it over your face as the ancient Greeks did because then you couldn’t see/hear/speak. Instead you have a helmet with a peak tilted back towards the rear, which really serves no purpose and it probably not the easiest helmet to wear. They just got it totally wrong.

Renaissance artists (and those from other periods) often depicted historical events using what they knew, including armor, clothing, weapons, etc. I imagine that so-called Corinthian helmet in the painting resembles something the artist saw at the Dukes palace or what-not.

Getting back to discussing the game specifically, is anyone else annoyed at the 18-part assassination animations Kassandra goes through when killing someone? Unless, of course, it’s the last guy left in a military camp at night facing away from you, then one quick blade to the back. But need to get in and quickly kill someone - 18 part animation coming up. Gotta make sure they’re not only dead, but dead x 18.

If they wanted to add another skill to the tree, how about one where it doesn’t take 15 minutes to ‘quietly’ assassinate someone.

Likely that artist based their helmet on this one of Pericles or a similar one, as described above it’s tilted back kind of like how fencers/football players do sometimes:

Likely they saw that and since they didn’t know anything about helmets, ignored the slit as decoration and figured that’s how they wore it.

Yeah, the animations are a little long for stealth kills. Some of the last guy animations are brutal too, especially with staffs and long axes/maces.

He’s dead, Kassandra. No need to go all homicidal maniac.

Uh, that’s basically what I said :)

That was a reference to you, sorry for the confusion. :)

Major (I guess) story spoilers question below. It’s after Athens.

So I go to the pirate island, and fork over 15,000 freakin’ drachmae to the pirate queen, and she delivers… nothing. Oh, she went thataway, maybe. No quest, no update, nothing. Is this supposed to be a dead end? I’d be mad, but it kind of fits a pirate, ripping you off. I should go back and see if I can find her or her stash at some point, I guess. Stupid pirate!
Note I did this one first of the three leads given, so if they are all dead ends, so be it but don’t spoil those.

You need to follow all the leads.

Ok thanks. I suspected that.

Yes, it’s ridiculous. Hey Kass, you just stabbed the guy literally through the chest, I’m pretty sure you don’t have to break his neck, too.

Although it’s pretty odd he’s still able to get enough air out of his one remaining lung to still grunt when he gets his neck broken.

Kass also does the neck breaking animation when stabbing a guy through the face. Just a little over the top, there.

The quick stabby assassinations are more enjoyable at this point.

I’m down to three cultists left, and was able to finish the Pirate set which grants +50% damage to assassination moves. Looking forward to trying it out.

One of the cultists I’m missing says they like to hang out with prostitutes and that I need to continue my Odyssey… I’m mostly done, so not sure what I’m missing.