Nice. I see what you did there. For the record, I’m not standing up for either of those two, but I do think the moderation here @ Qt3 has been excellent, although I have never been banned myself.

I like to think that if were to get banned, I’d take it like a fucking man.

I’m hoping he meant Tom as the little guy, because uh…

That’s exactly what I’m saying.

From the stickied message in the Game Forum:

If you need more information or have suggestions about how the forum should be run that you need me to see, email or PM me.

So he actually is just saying this, he doesn’t really mean it? Have you or anyone else actually tried this? Do you believe that just because he doesn’t act on your suggestions that automatically means he doesn’t want to hear them?

I think a lot of conclusions are created that may or may not be grounded in reality. No one is ever going to agree on how to run a forum if it’s run by a single person. He’s up front about the fact it’s run solely by him. I’m just not feeling all the complaining in a thread that he’s specifically said he’s not going to read.

I wish he would look at the overall contribution of the person if the ban is going to be more than a few days. I was pretty upset when he banned RyanMichael because RyanMichael really helps out in the H&T forum. Fortunately Tom unbanned him and all was well. But had he not, then I would have had to make a decision. The H&T forum is very valuable to me and if all the people helping get perma banned because of their actions in other threads, then the forum is not as useful for me.

I’m also beginning to hang out at SomethingAwful. I like them, they are funny and direct and very knowledgeable. People get banned there by the hour and it’s just no big deal.

Because it’s full of the shitheads that are now slowly infesting here, Lorini. Unfortunately for here, our administration doesn’t notice this fact and is complacently letting them get more and more entrenched within our numbers.

The only obvious solution is to cull them, but unfortunately visionaries like Bill_D are left unlistened to, while fuckwits like NewTimElhajj are allowed to call racists and child beaters pillars of our community.

It’s a damn shame.

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Fine, maybe not pillars, but tolerated members. Because when I think of the people I want to associate myself with, it’s definitely people who hate over 2 billion people based entirely on their ancestry and people who have had a previous propensity to beat their children.

Visionaries? Don’t over-egg it.

Then you’re out of your fucking mind. The Qt3 of years past would not tolerate worthless bullshit posters like Octonoo and spatzi for more than a couple of posts. Now they’ve got some kind of diplomatic immunity or some shit. People are not upset because they’ve grown dissatisfied with Qt3 over the years, they’re upset because Qt3 has become something other than the community they’ve enjoyed and would like to preserve what they can of it. Perhaps that is a lost cause, perhaps not. Regardless, the fact that you seem oblivious to this process says volumes.

I like to think that if were to get banned, I’d take it like a fucking man.

Only one way to find out. I’d love to give you advice on how to test the theory, but without a racist to mock or a domestic abuser to coddle, I’m not sure of the best approach.

You managed to simultaneously kiss the shit out of Bill D’s ass (ha!) and attempt to take the Munky discussion back to square 1, congratulations, what a constructive post.

Ever since I’ve started reading here, there have always been a few posters here and there who pretty much do nothing except troll. Granted, they were generally subtler…

Disappointing?

HAW! HAW! HAW!

What, did you have high expectations for me and got burned on the pre-order?

People would feel a little more put down by you regarding the spatzi argument if you weren’t, you know, completely worthless and clearly an idiot.

I had nothing to do with that spatzi patsy spat and my reference to the “slunking mangy dogs” involves this thread, Professor.

Seriously, what is your degree in?

Mangna Cum Louder in Moron?

pauses to allow BillD to wipe the huge steaming pile of egg off his skillet face…

Being a contrarian doesn’t mean you necessarily have to abuse the caps lock and exhibit laughably poor GIS skills.

You just can’t stand the indie trolls that refuse to be bought out by the established QT3-corporate Kotickery.

Wow, you’re annoying on the internet, what else can you do that a 9 year old can do?

I can routinely ignore opinions in thread posts and instead make spelling and grammar corrections to make myself look smart!

Can you tie your shoes? You should totally rub our faces in that next.

I CAN tie my own shoes!

No “BillD’s Handy-Dandy Velcro Straps™” necessary for me!

How you like me now?

Ahhh, you’re still just miffed at the whole Tuttle thing.

But as they say, one troll’s garbage heap is another troll’s installation…

HAW! HAW! HAW!

Let’s finish this off with a groovy song outro.

Many guffaws to be had with today’s polls and I don’t want to miss it…

Ladies and Gentlemen, give it up for MR. BRUNO MARS!

[i]Internet Trolls, all over the world
I could be baiting, but my time would be wasted
they got nothin’ on you, BillD (oohwoowoowoo)
Nothin on you, BillD (oohwoowoowoo)

They might say “Die,” and I might say “Nay”
But you shouldn’t worry about what they say
cause they got nothin on you, BillD (oohwoowoowoo)

NOTHIN’ ON YOU, BILLD[/I]

If ever a post was a bannable offense.

Sure, and the rest of the forum would pounce on them for being idiot trolls. The difference is that nowadays if you pounce on an idiot troll you might get banned for it. In the old system people called out the trolls for being trolls while moderation was pretty fucking rare. In the new system the people who are calling out the trolls “should know better”, and are acquiring a “body of work” that can get them banned.

The people calling out the trolls contribute less to threads than the trolls themselves and are boring as all hell to boot, and in fact make the trolls trolls by being trolled in the first place.

Hi Martin. I don’t know you. I have no idea how long you’ve been following Qt3, but since on the face of it you’re a guy who joined in 2010 with 50 posts to his name I’ll just assume you have no clue of what you’re talking about. There’s eight years worth of posts on these forums and you’ve been around for a month. The people calling out the trolls over the years did a good job. I can say so because I was there when it happened. You, who the fuck knows.

wat

truth. I don’t know why you’d be in this thread if you don’t at least have a decent grasp of what Qt3 has been and where it’s going, since that’s what this entire discussion is about.

Since you seem to be basing your evaluation of the argument based purely on the postcount of the person advancing it, would it change your views to know that I completely agree with Martin?

Yeah?

That’s your response to that BillD post and the Octonoo post? To say that Octonoo is contributing more? You’re out of whatever tiny little shred of a mind you have.

It’s pretty obvious Tortilla didn’t say that.

I don’t have a horse in this race, but I think it’d be better if we took people at their word.