Is the Qt3 consensus that Brotherhood is the one to get?

Brotherhood’s great, but AC2 edges it out, IMO. Just feels like a tighter design to me. There’s less side stuff, but all of it feels worthwhile and gives you some kind of reward (even if it’s just a little cutscene). In Brotherhood there’s a lot more to do, but it can be overwhelming, and some of the stuff doesn’t even really do anything. You just get a text message when you finish it, and maybe a weapon that you’ll never use will unlock with no fanfare. AC2 also has a better story, for sure.

Revelations is only for the AC hardcore who have to see the end of Ezio’s story. I’m one of those people and I’m glad I finished the game, but it was a big disappointment.

Definitely, absolutely get AC2 first if you haven’t. It’s overall (slightly) better than Brotherhood and essential for learning the ropes and Ezio’s “origin story”.

Definitely, absolutely get AC2 first if you haven’t. It’s overall (slightly) better than Brotherhood and essential for learning the ropes and Ezio’s “origin story”.

Definitely, absolutely get AC2 first if you haven’t played it yet. It’s overall (slightly) better than Brotherhood, has a tighter design and better organization for new players, and gives you Ezio’s “origin story”.

I’ll third what they’re saying, though I haven’t played Revelations. Get AC2, it’s the best in the series.

AC2 is probably in my all time top ten. I 100% that mofo. Even looked for flags and feathers, I just loved the world that much. I really enjoyed a lot of what AC:B added, I liked Borgia towers and having an army of assassins hiding in carts just waiting for my signal to strike. But after one Leonardo side mission I was done with those. After one shitty thief guild race that meant I wasn’t getting any more missions from them, I was done trying that crap. I donno what my ultimate % was for ACB, but it wasn’t anything close to 100%.

So yes, AC2 is better.

You are a heartless bastard if you don’t at least try to look for all the feathers.

I also 100%'d AC2 (the only 1000 point game I’ve 100%'d, I believe). It’s a lost cause with Brotherhood and Rev not only because they have some truly awful achievements, but because many of the achievements are tied to the multiplayer. I dinked around with the multi, but no way am I levelling up to the maximum or whatever it is the achievements need.

Just to chime in with my usual disagreement with everyone here: the first Assassin’s Creed is the best. AC2’s graphics, combat, scenery, gameplay are all a step down. I haven’t played Brotherhood or Revelations yet.

Steam Daily Deal for December 13th is King’s Bounty: Armored Princess for $6.24 (75% off). The Platinum edition is also 75% at $8.74.

The Midweek Madness (good till the 15th) is The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings for $23.99 (40% off). This matches GoG’s sale price but the GoG version remains 100% DRM-free if that’s important to you (or if you’d like to support the game developers directly).

Wooooooooooord.

AC2 is very good though. The games just get worse with each installment. Hopefully AC3 refocuses the franchise.

Just to chime in on AC2, I have no idea what the hell I’m doing, and I don’t understand the goal in that game at all. Am I supposed to be doing something besides pushing the story forward? I see a bunch of collectibles, is that what the game’s all about? The city is one giant cluster of lookalike buildings and narrows streets full of drones, and the combat feels spammy as all get out. I can get past that stuff though when I understand what it is I’m supposed to be doing to have fun, I just never got that part.

Now, obviously many consider it a brilliant game, I just think I’m out of my depth.

Maybe you’re not very far in the game yet. Push the story forward until you put on your fancy assassin suit. The game is mostly story missions, but you can take a break and do some collectibles whenever you feel like it too, after that point.

I got as far as the second city, where I’m in Uncle Mario’s castle, but put the game on hold when I started Playing Just Cause 2. I haven’t returned only because I expect to restart from the beginning, but my backlog is full of games I’d like to play first (Deux Ex 3, Witcher 2, among many others).

Again though, my criticisms aren’t really about the game itself, I can tell it is a game many are passionate about; but it was one of the first console games I played of the 360 generation (I just got my 360 last year), and it just felt unwieldy compared to everything else I was used to playing.

DON’T YOU MEAN DUES EX KERZAIN SPELL IT RIGHT WHAT ARE YOU SOME KIND OF MORON

DLC=Dudes Loving Cocks

Hm I just checked and yes they are *.exe files now.
I could swear there were Steam keys only in the beginning.

I might have lost overview in all those indie bundles though. :p

That new HumbleBundle is up.

AssCred 1 is seriously one of the worst attempted-to-be-AAA games I’ve played. I will never understand why anyone found a game with a total lack of gameplay to be even the least bit compelling.

Did you just really like exploring the city? That was definitely well-done. They just forgot to include a game with it.

For me the basic gameplay is as close to perfection as I’ve ever played. Everything that you do in a moment to moment basis just connects with me like no other game.

First of all the combat: I love the way the combat system unfolds. Batman: Arkham City unfolds in a similar fashion, with moves being added over time, but you exploring the same areas and the combat changing over time as you explore the combat in those areas and it changes the gameplay over the course of the game. The animations and the way they made it look when you fight a large group of people is incredibly fun for me.

Secondly there’s the climbing and exploration. I just love the way they did the dynamic system in the game where, if it’s jutting out of a wall and it looks like you can grab it, then your character will grab it, or use it to leverage himself higher. It all looks smooth and just so intuitive. Every other game always seems to have a more fake-looking fundamental system in play where they script some things to be climbable and other things not to be climbable.

Third, I loved the way they used the crowds of civilians and how your character interacts with them: sliding past them, or pushing them out of the way depending on whether you’re traveling high profile or low profile. I also love how you can blend in with roaming priests and get lost in the crowd.

Finally, I love, love, love the framing of the game. Having you explore “genetic memories” explains away so many conventions of games in such an elegant way that it just tickles me and brings a smile to my face just thinking about it. Walls of shimmering code block access to parts of the city that you don’t have the genetic memories for yet, health bar is replaced by a synchronization bar that measures how much you’re following real genetic memories, the way crowds of people are meaningless crowds of people in a city that you don’t interact with because it makes sense that the character doesn’t have strong genetic memories of interacting with nameless faces in a crowd. And so on. It all just fits so well in a video game and video gaming open world conventions.

Plus there’s the superficial reason that Assassin’s Creed is gorgeous. Unlike the sequel, the lighting is always pitch perfect. It’s filtered with a certain type of lighting like a stylized hollywood movie with a lens filter and special effects that make everything look cool and gorgeous. (The sequels instead replaced this with a lighting model based on a day/night cycle instead).

The biggest factor is the combat, though. If you don’t enjoy the combat and blending in with the crowd, or running away from guards across rooftops, then the very things you’ll be doing moment-to-moment in the game aren’t enjoyable. And then, why would you play the game? If you don’t enjoy those few fundamental things, then I can see why it would be a game where “they forgot to include a game in it”. I would probably feel the same way about Batman: Arkham City if I didn’t enjoy the combat model in that game.

Yeah that was a completely different one, not a HIB