1681

Some quibbles but it could have been a LOT worse.

1682

Gliding across terrain and water until leap into cityscape 150,000 years into the future. Zoom into Caprica and Baltar (not really) at the newstand.

[Edit] Assuming you caught the chat.

1683

SPOILER

Hera is mitochondrial Eve

1684

Hera looks up, scenes of Earth scenery fly by, “150,000 years later” scroll centering on the Manhattan skyline.

1685

SPOILER

(really anything posted past this point is probably a spoiler TURN BACK NOW you West Coasters!)

Lee Adama: Dumbest Leader Ever.
I like how someone on Something Awful put it. “You know guys, I know living on the run for over 4 years has sucked and we’ve barely made it this far, but really, there is something to be said for rolling around in the mud and not having sanitation. Who’s with me?”

1686

Thanks. Caught most of the chat but it was hard to follow. With Wader’s explanation I can spare myself a re-watching.

I only have a couple of thoughts:

It should have ended when Starbuck (wow, it actually took me half a minute to remember the name - show is fading fast from memory already) jumped the ship to earth - that shot of the earth in the distance was good. Stop there, call it day. It’s not like we actually expected a definitive and clear explanation of what Starbuck was now anyway. And giving up the ships? Bollocks.

Wobbly-walking Roslin with the googley eyes was uncomfortably disturbing for reminding me of real folk on their last legs.

Tyrol choking out whats-her-bitch was nicely cathartic.

Since this was ‘our’ Earth, doesn’t that make the Kobol episode crap because the constellations seen there, which match ours, couldn’t have matched the tainted earth of the Final 5? Or is it plausible to that the two earths are close enough to have the same constellations but far enough apart that a fleet of star-jumping raptors can’t find them?

1687

Oh my god*, really? You guys were really OK with that ending? Because holy fuck that sucked some serious shit.

OK, yes, the space porn was pretty, plus I got to see some hot Centurion-on-Centurion action. But Dean Stockwell, who has been HUNTING HUMANITY TO EXTINCTION FOR FOUR FUCKING YEARS, gives up Hera because Balthar says please? That’s absurd.

And what’s the deal with Ninjabuck? What, was she non-corporeal all this time? But could somehow fly ships and pull jump switches? That’s not clever, or ambiguous. That’s not even an ending, really, so much as the writers collectively shrugging.

And I guess the head Six and head Baltar are angels or some shit? Great. So, instead of the science-fiction show I thought I was watching, I guess it was really a very extended episode of Touched By A Cylon.

I do like the idea that the Chief pissed off somewhere by himself to some northern hinterland. I like to think that he went off and founded Canada.

In conclusion: Fuck Battlestar Galactica.

  • Sorry, gods.
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I loved how they had to articulate clearly the fact that it was amazing that nobody was going to mutiny over having to go native…amazingly everybody can’t wait to put on the hair shirt and hunt up some grub for the cave. Who were the lucky colonists who caught the shuttle to Tahiti?

Given the mess they had they did a pretty good job tying up the arcs. It really could have been worse. Personally I’d have preferred something a little more nihilistic like the end of John Carpenter’s the Thing. They could have gone that direction and given all the happy enders a big Raspberry. But I guess unexplained mystical space angels is a pretty big raspberry for a lot of people. :)

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Yeah. Okay with it. I mean, I’m not really huge on the whole Erich von Daniken angle, but really, there weren’t a lot of options that would conclusively end the series, and this way I get to believe that Starbuck is, in fact, the first ninja, descended to Earth from The Heavens to bestow upon the ancient Neanderthals the secret of True Ultimate Power, shortly before totally screwing with them because apparently that’s just what she does or something. The details aren’t important on that one because it’s JUST THAT AWESOME.

1690

Cavil was staring racial extinction in the face, and realized “chopping Hera into slices” wasn’t a viable option for solving this, whereas what Baltar and the Final Five offered was. Thus his reaction when it all went soft and brown.

I don’t think they were trying to say she was non-corporeal, I think they just simply had her “go home”. Which is about what I expected.

Wow, someone hasn’t been paying attention for the past 3 years or so. They have been riding the mystical stuff pretty hard, yo.

Scotland. We have haggis because Tyrol hates himself and life.

1691

Shit, I think I missed something. My DVR cut out when Adama was landing the ship and said “I’m going to build it right there, Laura”.

I think they ended it much, much better than they could have. Pretty decent overall . . . I mean, they had to wrap it up in two hours. Some mystifying stupid shit that has already been mentioned, but it ended way, way better than the original series.

Glaring though … yeah, I’ll give up modern medicine, electricity, and millions of man hours of shipbuilding and modern conveniences . . . you go ahead and send our ships … into the SUN!

Still, I can’t say why exactly, but I liked it. Wish I had seen the last little bit though. This happened to Heroes a lot too.

1692

Yeah, I wonder who got to break the news to the people with diseases and those recovering from war injuries that, hey, sorry, you’re all going to have to die, because we’re flying the ships into the sun and abandoning modern medicine, sanitation, and technology. “It’s awesome, though, because we’re breaking the cycle, guys! Guys? Hey, put down those crutches! OW!”

1693

Yeah, but I never thought they were serious about it.

1694

Yeah, I was thinking Tyrol started the Irish (Celts).

Though having Tigh do it would make more sense … drumroll

Man did I call Tyrol choking that bitch out. As soon as she started blabbing about “Look we’ve all done thing we regret” I was yelling “You gonna DIE!”

1695

All in all though guys? As much as we’ve bitched I would have watched another season. You know they ended it right when you’re sad to see it go.

1696

I thought that Starbuck twist was obvious. She’s a Q.

1697

I’d rather see Weber’s Honor Harrington made into a Sci Fi series.

Am I the only one who is completely not interested in Caprica? The preview looked like a bad soap opera about the dangers of teenage drinking. At least it looks like it funded some of the matte paintings of the city for the flash backs in Galactica…even if they were pretty out of place themselves.

1698

I am totally thrilled to see it go. They had lots of time this season to try to wrap up stuff, but instead blew a bunch of time on a pointless civil war storyline and other nonsense.

It ticks me off because there was so much potential with this show. The first two seasons are just fantastic television, but in retrospect I think they lost their way with the Final Five reveal. It became pretty obvious at that point they really had no over-riding, Babylon 5-esque story arc planned at all.

Now, I’m not really hung up on the idea of hewing specifically to a pre-ordained storyline. I think shows can grow and evolve and take in changes that make things better. (Like how in Lost Ben’s character grew in importance because everybody really loved the actor.) I just don’t think that happened in Battlestar.

Six Feet Under is a great ending. The Wire had a good ending. Heck, I was even happy with Buffy and Angel’s ending. But this was just… maddening.

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It ran 11 minutes over.

1700

Oh hey, just realized:

Centurion Cylons win.

Pesky humans and inhibiting skinjobs forfeit.