I see what you did there. ;)
I don’t think anybody could watch 33 and the finale back to back and claim that they feel like the same series. It’s hard not to be disappointed by that.
Quitch
1743
Watch an episode from the start, watch an episode from the end. See whether they converge or there’s a sudden break.
And in WALL-E they didn’t get rid of the ships.
Yes, but up until the last episode it was ambiguous as to whether there really was a supernatural entity guiding everybody or whether it was just how the characters perceived reality. By making Head Six and Head Baltar literal angels - and not just angels, but the Bruno Ganz in Wings OF Desire kind of angels in the final scene - well, that’s just stupid.
ENTERING SPOILER TOWN FOR BUFFY, ALTHOUGH EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE SEEN THIS BY NOW AND IF NOT YOU SHOULD REALLY WATCH IT BECAUSE BUFFY WAS WAY BETTER THAN BATTLESTAR:
I disagree. The Buffy ending was rushed (it really should have been two hours), and yes it’s awful how the killed and discarded Anya’s character so flippantly, but the final episode of Buffy really brought home the feminist message of the show in a very powerful way. (Plus I loved the shot of the big smoking crater where Sunnydale used to be.)
…Farming isn’t that simple
Hugin
1747
It’s disappointing that a show didn’t remain static over the course of 4 seasons of plot and character development? I think you might be happier watching Law and Order.
Hugin
1748
Why is it stupid? You admit it was ambiguous (although I think cumulatively they’d made it pretty unambiguous over the seasons that these things weren’t just hallucinations), and so they finally made it definite. It was always a possibility. I really don’t get all the whining that the show was serious about the supernatural aspects.
Hugin
1749
You know, given good soil and a decent climate it kind of is. Oh, there’s tons of fiddly procedural things, how much water, which things need to grow in which seasons, how to deal with various parasites, blah blah, but they haven’t thrown away their ability to think critically and they haven’t thrown away their entire knowledge base. Small children can grow a garden, I think 30k motivated adults, mostly deliberately settled in fertile areas without crushing winters, will muddle through.
It isn’t, but it is learnable. Is it likely that, out of a random selection of over 30,000 people, none of them know anything about how to grow food? I mean, they have a botanical cruiser in the fleet, which is basically a flying greenhouse staffed with botanists and all the skilled laborers required to cultivate everything they have onboard. And they don’t need a lot of people skilled in agriculture–just enough to train the others in each of the settlements.
They never go into too much detail about where the fleet gets its food in the series, but it can’t possibly be from stores that the ships had onboard when the Cylons attacked. We’re talking about 40,000 people loaded onto ships that were mostly outfitted for day trips. That’s like proposing that if a fully loaded 737 were forced to remain in flight for four years, they could feed all the passengers with what they had in the galley. I had always assumed that the fleet must be producing at least some food.
sluggo
1751
I seem to recall some episodes early on with ships that had indoor agricultural gardens and such, so I never gave much thought to it after that.
I think the show went out at just the right time. I’ve enjoyed the series, but this year’s civil war stuff never grabbed me, and it all felt like it was running out of steam. So it’s a satisfcatory ending for me, if not an all-time great.
Although, once they found Earth, I was hoping it was a long way into our future instead of our past, and the Galactica folk would discover we were in fact their ancestors, not the other way around. If nothing else, it would have made sense that random things like boxing, cigarettes, pianos, etc, all became part of their civilization; at least it would have been more elegant than the idea that they threw all those little things away and yet they came back exactly the same 150,000 years later.
Yeah. Hopefully they’ll be able to teach that to their children before their children die at 30 from easily preventable diseases.
I didn’t say they weren’t identical, I said they didn’t feel like the same series.
Growth is good. But BSG slowly drifted from being hard-edged military drama about the survivors of a horrible disaster fleeing and fighting for their lives to being a soap opera about fuzzy-headed mysticism and Divine Intervention uniting proto-cavemen with hot genocidal robot-women. I’m sure there are people who are into that sort of thing, but I’m not one of them. I wish I’d stopped watching the series after the first prophetic dream sequence.
MikeJ
1754
I liked the idea that they dropped in on anatomically modern but behaviorally primitive people, teaching language etc. That reminds me of theories that I read years ago that the development of language led to an explosion of tool use, cultural sophistication, etc.
I don’t think the diseases really got rolling until people started living in big settlements. Though I do agree that they really underplayed how hard a life they were getting into.
bloo
1755
Farming is a shit torn of hard work every day. I suspect there are some tilium miners who would rather have a vacation than become farmers.
Wader
1756
Not that I am trying to argue, Madkevin, but if they hadn’t explained the chars at all, and merely left the implication that they might be supernatural or might be technological, wouldnt people be in this thread complaining that they never explained that particular major bit of plot?
I thought the reveal that there actually was a deity was handled as well as it could be.
edit - though I will admit that I felt the dialogue between head 6 and head Baltar at the end of the episode was really clunky. I think that scene could have used a few more rewrites.
I think that scene could have been jettisoned entirely. I would have faded to credits while they were pulling away from Adama and Roslyn’s cairn. Give Bill the last word in the show.
I know this may shock and amaze some of you, but the real human race has survived for hundreds of thousands of years in the face of all kinds of diseases. I find the idea that the people from the fleet, because they gave up their technology, will now be wiped out from disease laughable.
Hugin
1759
Once you know about sanitation, germ theory, and how the body really works, a lot of those easily preventable diseases are, in fact, easily preventable.
So my fucking Tivo ate the second hour of this. It’s not replaying again until next Friday ugh. I knew I shoulda checked the program, but I didn’t, so it preempted the second hour to tape REAL TIME WITH BILL FUCKING MAHER!
I hate that guy!
Anyway, other than watching it online or waiting, I don’t have any options do I?
Why isn’t Sci-Fi more like HBO, that obsessively replays every new episode of it’s flag ship shows?
