FoRmaT
1881
Questions that remain for me:
If “head!” -Six & -Baltar are angels/gods of some sort, what are the “real”, flesh, Baltar and Six?
Why did Leoben know who/what Kara was? Who/what was Leoben, that he could know? I agree I missed at least a small “told you so!”-scene between them.
Why was that whole Opera House stuff important? It revealed basically nothing.
Who was the dying leader that would take them to Earth? Because clearly, Roslin had stepped down from leading weeks ago, and, ultimately, it was Kara who led the fleet both to “nuked not quite Earth” and “Earth 2”.
How could the assault teams that boarded the colony a) locate Hera at all and b) do it so damn quickly, considering that this thing is so damned huge that Galactica looked like a little bug next to it, and Galactica was already really really huge? Was it Boomer who knew the way? There was no scene that indicated she did, or that she had ever set foot on the colony before.
When did Romo become president? Who elected him?
Rewatched it again and it’s still awesome. When I first saw it, I SO thought Bill Adama would crash the Raptor when he, tears in the eyes, said he had “found a nice place, right there!”. Or that the Raptor would accidentally crash because he had taken his hands off the controls. It’s chilling that the very Six who was directly responsible for the near extinction of humanity end ups being in true Love with Baltar, and gets to live with humanity’s remnants.
MikeJ
1882
Head-Six and Head-Baltar just decided to take Baltar and Six’s forms in order to facilitate their manipulation. The angels take their forms, they aren’t made in the angel’s forms.
Why did Leoben know who/what Kara was? Who/what was Leoben, that he could know? I agree I missed at least a small “told you so!”-scene between them.
Divine inspiration, faith, insight? The Centurion’s had some insight that lead them to the true faith, and that carried over in Leoben.
How could the assault teams that boarded the colony a) locate Hera at all and b) do it so damn quickly, considering that this thing is so damned huge that Galactica looked like a little bug next to it, and Galactica was already really really huge? Was it Boomer who knew the way? There was no scene that indicated she did, or that she had ever set foot on the colony before.
Helen would have remembered the layout of the Colony. Besides, Boomer made it easier by bringing Hera to them.
ckessel
1883
Yea, I was pretty dissapointed by the last 1/2 hour. The series hinted at mythology and spirituality much of the way, but much could be explained via technology (e.g. Temple of Athena) of sorts or a certain amount of magical sixth sense. But, in the end, the magic super being did it all.
clap hands, puff of smoke Poof, there ya go, everything all tied up by the uber-power. No explanation necessary. All those speeches about self determination, like Tigh’s determination to live as a person he believed himself to be rather than as a cylon? Yea, all that, just time filler. The whole “rescue Hera” mission, complete waste of time since they found new “humans” they can breed with anyway. WTF was the point of rescuing her? Humans didn’t need her and the fleet-Cylons won’t know crap about her since they drove all tech they had right into the sun. Why didn’t they just nuke the colony with Hera in it and leave in the first place?
None of that mattered obviously because the uber-being controls it all and drug humanity through all that crap simply for personal amusement I guess.
Bleah. Horrible way to end a quality series.
lolwut? Boomer was already in the colony when they got there. She’s the one who brought Hera there in the first place and the reason they found Hera so fast is because Boomer brought her to the boarding party. You know the difference between Athena and Boomer, right?
When did Romo become president? Who elected him?
Apollo appointed him president, like his dad appointed Hoshi Admiral.
FoRmaT
1885
Oh, yes, I mixed up Athena and Boomer. Ahhhhh right, I see the president thing too, thanks. Anyway, isn’t there a huge difference between an Admiral promoting someone and someone, even a president, just naming someone else the new president? In those times not, I guess…
FoRmaT
1886
Could you please point out to me where or in what episode it was said that the Centurions had that insight? I don’t remember that at all…
FoRmaT
1887
Hmmm, I didn’t see the assault team using any kind of mapping-device. I think it’s very unlikely she said something easy to follow, like “left, right, third on the left”. We’re talking about a HUGE colony. IMHO, there should have been at least a tiny shot of the team looking at some PDA with a map.
Ellen goes on about how the Centurions had already developed monotheism before the five Earth-cylons ever got to them in the Great Exposition Marathon.
MikeJ
1889
In this season, Helen explains that faith in god was something the Centurions developed, not something the final five brought with them from the original Earth. Since apparently the Centurions were right on the money (in terms of the BSG universe), that implies some kind of insight, to me at least.
Assuming the Colonial government is much like that of the US, I’d assume the President could nominate his Vice President who would then become President when the President resigns, ala Nixon/Ford. Presumably such an action would require confirmation from the Quorum of 12 like ours does confirmation from Congress, but since the quorum was all dead I guess they figured that they could skip over that part.
Possibly bottlenecks and decidedly non-random mating might make Eve’s identity quite variable, but I don’t know. In principle, though, even if we somehow knew that Hera is Eve today, that wouldn’t necessarily imply she was Eve yesterday or will be Eve tomorrow–“Eve” is an unfortunate and misleading coinage for the concept.
FoRmaT
1892
Brian, Mike, even considering that, it’s still a stretch between saying “ok, there’s only one god” and knowing “Kara’s an angel”…
Some time ago I posited that Bill Adama was the dying leader (or one of them) as evidenced by all his pill popping. It’s a stretch, but it’s the first thing I thought of when he told Lee and Kara “I don’t have much time left.” Maybe he’s dying and told Lee and Kara off camera. Why else would Bill abandon his friends and family? Why else would Lee not try to stop him from leaving? Why else would Lee not have a stronger reaction when Kara tells him that he’s not coming back?
FoRmaT
1894
I thought with the “not much time left” he was telling Lee that Laura was in her last minutes. I think something as important as Papadama telling his family that he was dying wouldn’t happen off screen.
Edit: thinking more about those pills he was taking, for all we know they could have been Aspirins or something against acid reflux.
walTer
1895
As we now know, he does seem to puke a lot after drinking so that makes sense…heh.
You’d think. But it’s the only thing I could think of that helps me reconcile the whole “Bill is moving across the continent to live alone for no damn reason whatsoever and no one seems to have much of a problem with it” thing.
FoRmaT
1897
Well, he’d been responsible of keeping HUMANITY alive as a species. For years. He and his, have been chased through the galaxy. For years. He has seen countless people die under his command. Zarek. Mutiny. Being shot by Boomer. Finding out his brotherlike friend is a Cylon. Having to leave all those people on New Caprica. The letdown that was “nuked not quite Earth”.
My guess is that his leaving was more of a “Fuck all this, I need two years of holidays, so screw you guys, I’m going home!” than a “I’ll never come back”. That was Lee and Kara’s assumption, but they could very well be wrong with that.
Zylon
1898
It’s amazing how many people are using the “oh they’ve suffered so much!” angle to try to explain every single living human suddenly abdicating rationality.
FoRmaT
1899
You realize Bill Adama was the guy who’d smash his model ship and his office to bits and fall to the floor, crying and screaming, right?
Zylon
1900
Shush, the menfolk are talking.