Battletech by Harebrained Schemes (Shadowrun Returns)


I don’t know if it’s just me, but the AI seems dumber since I’d been playing with the 1.03 beta and now pushed version. I’ve had a few instances where tanks will just sit there doing nothing until I go shoot it and take it out. A lot of my 4-5 star missions have mechs with low armor, whereas pre 1.03 all the mechs were nearly/always full armor. I’m doing missions around the research/manufacturing Tauran capital area to try and get better gear and some mechs I don’t have so the mission zones haven’t changed.


Low armor enemies were common at launch too. If the mission says something about them coming from a battle or stuff like that, it’s mostly shown through depleted armor.


Argh. My second contract went super well, defending a base and getting bonus credits for no damage to the base, and 2/3rd of a Jenner. I click next after salvage and game crash. My only save is the auto-save when the mission started. Not a great first impression there, with me not wanting to replay that damned fight again and HOPE it goes as well the second time. Sigh.


Hopefully that will be a rare thing for you. In my 80 hours of play so far, I’ve only had to redo 1 mission due to a bug where it got stuck and wouldn’t progress to the next turn in the mission.


Only real bug I found other than the supposedly now fixed permanent morale status one was a doozy–late game, right before setting off on the final mission, game would not advance the clock for work orders or any other tasks because a financial report event was still in the queue though it was marked done. Had to ditch that campaign and start a new one. Not a big deal, as I kinda wanted to do that anyhow.


Another pilot bites the dust. Down to killing the last mech in a base defense mission, and the griffin does a death from above onto my hunchback, destroying the head and killing yet another pilot. I think I’ve lost 3 pilots in the last 5 missions now due to the head being destroyed.


Sounds like a pretty decent AI.


One interesting thing about all these turn-based strategy games that depict warfare is that none of them impose moral factors on the AI side. While the human player has the option to withdraw after devastating losses the AI, no matter how bad it gets, never does so. They always attack to the last man. In BT novels, general retreats happen, yet not in the games. I know why this is, but it’s one factor that isn’t terribly realistic – and again not that realism in this regard is desired or necessary to the game.


I was pondering this exact thing throughout my first semi-abortive play through. That last enemy 'Mech, minus its arms, limping, with smoke boiling up from its shattered chassis, desperately charging your nearly pristine assault 'Mech to head butt it in a gesture of supreme futility. Might make sense if you’re fighting the Genyosha or ComStar ROM fanatics, but for most mercs or even house troops, that’s nonsensical.

I agree though it makes little difference for this type of game. In fact, because you, the player, have no real incentive not to go for broke all the time, especially with save scumming, it would unbalance things remarkably if the enemy turned tail when you gained a huge advantage. And we certainly would complain bitterly if our own troops broke and ran without our control.


This is only sort of connected, but what it made me think of is how CA has programmed their units in tactical battles to retreat when getting beat up and then circle back again to attack you. So you can often break a unit and if you didn’t also pretty much decimate them they disengage from getting clobbered then come back from a new angle of attack to hit you again somewhere weaker. Also their ranged units are really rather good at harassing the heck out of you inflicting some damage and then if you seek to address it with any other unit short of cav they just keep kiting away from your unit, stopping to fire at them if they stop pursuing.

It’s really rather effective. And it just occurred to me that’s something as you say that would be interesting to have here. Program the AI so when it has a mech with no weapons left for example to simply disengage. In TW titles when I’m playing a tactical battle I very rarely completely destroy an army because they break and run for the hills to fight another day.


The only time I’ve seen the AI try to retreat is assassination missions. The target has attempted to retreat on a number of occasions for me.


Yep. That’s what made me think of this. In my case it was a Locust believe it or not, going up against my full lance of minimally damaged Assault and Heavy mechs. It was pitiful and ludicrous at the same time.


I had another crash right after accepting the salvage. I looked it up and many folks report the same issue, so not sure what that’s all about. I re-did the mission (it was mercifully short) and no problems the second time. I’m just going to have to get into the habit of hitting F10 as I get close to the end of a mission to quick save, so I don’t have to re-do entire missions should it happen again, I suppose.

Loving the game so far otherwise though. So satisfying!


I had this problem occasionally until I updated my video drivers, and then it went away. Could be a coincidence though


Thanks, this worked.


There is one mech left I really want (don’t need just want) Victor-VTRE-9B. It has the most ballistic hardpoints of any Assault mech that I can see (3 of them). I still only have 1/3 and have yet to come across another piece in like 15 4-5 star missions.

I want to see what it’s like to have a fantastically armored version of a Jagermech. Seems fun, cause I hate it when I start getting sniped by a 2x AC/2/5 + 2x LRM Jager.


I find this game hard to fire up during the week. But then I get into it and can’t put it down. So the worst of both worlds.


Seriously struggling to find a good layout for a Dragon. I want to like the Dragon, because… well, dragons are cool. But to give it a decent spread of weapons, I need to strip a lot of armor. Only thing I can think of is a weird fire support hybrid (staying far away due to the weak armor).

LA (70)::::::::: AC5 + ammo
LT (80/40)::::: nada
CT (135/60):: nada
RT (80/40):::: MG + ammo, ML
RA (70)::::::::: PPC, MG
LL (90):::::::::: nada
RL (90)::::::::: nada

It’s just I can’t really justify it.


I’ve tried variations on it. About the only success I’ve had is adding armor and building it for close range/melee. Even when you first build one, the engineer tells you that he’s not going to lie to you and tell you that it’s a good mech.


I feel your pain but sometimes you just have to embrace that the mechs you love are trash and field them out of love. I have fielded tons of stock mechs with LLs or obvious heat problems since like 75% of maps seem to be on hot environments for absolutely no good reason except it bums me out to immediately turn everything into MLs, LRMs, MLs, armor, HS, and MLs.