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More amusingly, they cite a release date of January 2, 2007.
Obviously capitalizing on the holiday shopping rush. Since it’s obvious (and will be more obvious on New Year’s) that there is no Duke Nukem Forever, can clueless shoppers who bought into the pre-order sue them for advertising a non-existent product?
What would be most annoying is seeing the constant BB pre-order ding for $60 on your card bill, which is what they like to do. This time, it would be on there for years.
You know, I have a morbid curiosity if it will be any good, but after reading Scott Miller’s responses about Vista in PCG this month- I really have no intrest in shelling out 50 bucks to the guy.
It is not what he said, but the snarky way he says it. He really came off like an ass. Too bad, back in the day, I respeced the Austin crew-Id,3DR exc- shareware at the finest. Now,at least on the 3DR side, they just seem like bitter old men.
i.e Id- does anyone know if they really are doing a RPG? I’ve heard John say more than once that he always wanted to do an RPG- Quake was suppost to be that, I hope -good or bad- he gets to make his dream game before bowing out of the industry and making his moon lander.
3DRealms just needs to spit out the game. I can’t imagine why they haven’t been able to finish DNF, unless it’s just that they’ve gone cheap on development staff and they can’t develop fast enough to keep up with technology changes.
As expected probably, but I don’t think anyone is disputing if the release date is true or false. At least I hope not. But I’m wondering whether Best Buy are legally liable for offering a product for pre-order that even the developers came out and said is definitely not ready for a January release, and that the release date given by Best Buy is false and a lie.
Are they allowed to pull shit like this? (Best Buy not 3DR)
I’d guess Best Buy is relying on some publisher information from way back, or else just made a mistake. The amount of money they’d make from pre-orders online has to be minimal and wouldn’t offset the ill will they’d generate.
According to Masters of Doom, Carmack programmed a primitive CRPG back in the 8 bit days. I’ve always been a bit curious to see what that was like, though I don’t hold up particularly high hopes about its quality.
Certainly not illegal, it’s a common thing for internet retailers to do, and contrary to what alot of people think, it’s not some underhanded retail scam to take your money. Generally speaking, Internet retailers want to take preorders on upcoming titles, even if they don’t have a firm release date, because customers want to preorder the title. From my experience, some sort of release date is most likely systematically required in order to communicate with the customer re: expected delivery dates, and also to systematically differentiate a “preorder” from a normal order. Thats why these things get dates (sometimes wrong, and often a best-guess type of thing). Someone at the internet retailer is responsible for updating these dates based on info they get from the publisher, and sometimes that info is incredibly vague. DNF is obviously an extreme example, but I’m sure at some point the publisher said “Hey BBY, DNF isn’t coming out this year”, and the date got pushed out to 2007. That date change may have happened months ago, and not been looked at again because there was no new info from the publisher.
Not a perfect system, but I would guess thats how most of the big ones work (EB, Gamestop, BBY, etc).
Well, I think it was Romero who wanted to make it more of an RPG, and the evolution of the engine which turned it into a high-speed shooter. The more I read about the goings-on at id, the more it seems like Carmack is their biggest asset and problem.
Well, retailers want to take pre-orders because it gives both the retailer and the publisher idea of what the demand will be and they can produce and ship accordingly. Publishers more and more are using the pre-order/reserve count as an indicator of sales these days, which is part of the reason why retailers push for it more.
For the retailer, a pre-order purchase (like $10 or whatever) helps the retailer in a couple of extra ways… it adds cashflow to the retailer (they’d rather have some of the money now than at some later date), allows the retailer to forecast sales (if the launch date is set), and frankly it adds the possibility of free money to the retailer. How many pre-order purchases welsh on their purchases? I’d be interested to see the numbers.
If only it was, say, 2000, they’d have a monster hit on their hands. I mean, cripes it’ll have been 12 years. I loved Duke Nukem 3D at the time, it’s just, I mean, my God, Half-Life 2 even came out already and DNF remained vaporware. I think it’s about 5 years too late for those of us fans (including me) who would’ve really cared maybe 6-7 years ago if a sequel had released then. And a whole generation or 5 or 10 of gamers have come along in that time for whom the name means nada.
My only DN3D story I like to tell is a good college buddy and I would play modem co-op games all the time. But because there was friendly fire, we’d constantly accidentally shoot each other. If I offed him in the game, he’d insist on tracking me all over the map until he “got even.” I guess it was my first ever deathmatching, I just didn’t know it. :p
“If DNF is not out in 2001, something’s very wrong.” - George Broussard, 2001
“DNF will come out before Unreal 2.” - George Broussard, 2001 (Unreal 2 was released in 2003)
“DNF will come out before Doom 3.” - George Broussard, 2002 (Doom 3 was released in 2004)
“Our idea is that we’re going to really start the marketing blitz when we feel like we’re about 10-12 months away from release. So as soon as you see something from us, that would be the indication that we’re within that time window. I think definitely the time window is under 3 years…” - Scott Miller, 2006
Where’s the page about all the things that have been done in DNF’s development time?
Stuff like the two Mars rovers being conceptualized, proposed, funded, designed, launched, and exceeded their operational design time by 10x completely since DNF was announced.
