An 8 year old in a haunted house is a far cry from a 18 month old in a crib being terrorized by something it has no way of understanding.
These words don’t belong anywhere near each other.
This seems to be pretty telling.
How developed is an 18* month old brain? Is it really likely that something like that will leave an effect long term? That’s an honest question, since I’m not sure. That’s pretty frickin fragile if being scared by some fake zombies for a music video scarred the kid for life. More than likely, it seems like the kid won’t even remember it.
*Though he walks pretty well. Perhaps he’s older? I don’t know anything about kids. Heh.
Did it occur to the people getting their panties in a twist over this that, PERHAPS, the process of filming and creating this video was not as traumatizing as it might seem in the final product?
For instance, A lot of those scenes with monsters looking into the crib - the baby might not even be in the same room…
If you put a baby on a set of a music video (lights, cameras, people with funny equipment) - you don’t need to have a group of monsters dancing around them to make them cry.
So unless you’re making a case that all fucking babies on television are being abused and traumatized, I really can’t make sense of any of this blather. You don’t have to like the “edgy” video or the crap synthpop - but I think it was a cool concept, and I’m frankly much more alarmed by the videos encouraging him to be a furry at the end. Now THAT’s abuse.
I’m not an expert, but the problem would be that the brain is in the active process of developing at that age. Maybe he doesn’t remember it, but flinches every time someone tries to shake his hand the rest of his life.
Frankly, my objection to the video doesn’t even require the child to actually have been tormented in this fashion. Even if it’s staged I find it distasteful and did not want to watch more than a the few seconds I already have. I don’t think there is anything entertaining about scaring a child that young on purpose, whether you actually do it or just simulate it.
So is the position being argued here that you can do anything you want to a little kid because they won’t remember it anyway? Because, if so, that’s pretty fucked up.
i don’t really like kids, but I couldn’t watch much more than the first 15 seconds or so. That’s just cruel. Artistically I can see where it’s a neat idea, but to actually execute it wasn’t very bright.
wumpus
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No, that’s not the position. The position being argued is that kids are much more resilient than the pansies in this thread are giving them credit for.
I’m like Brad, after having kids I completely lost the ability to watch any entertainment with kids in peril/distress even though I know for an absolute fact it’s just make believe.
And I also think this is trickery (to get us yo react this way). Film a kid long enough and you’ll get plenty of footage of the kid crying like that (even if he’s quickly comforted by the parents) - then edit in the monsters.
If they actually did scare the kids on purpose to make the video, then I’m right there with my torch and pitchfork!
(even though I don’t think it would damage a kid permanently, it’s just not something you do. For any reason, least at all a shitty music video)
As I said before, the crib stuff is mostly edited with child reaction shot, then monsters going boogedy boogedy. So it’s totally believable that the kid isn’t even there at the same time the monsters are. But the sidewalk bit is one long shot of the kid running along from the finger waving bloody people (which the child doesn’t really care about) to the slug thing on the planter wall to the giant dog monster. He’s obviously looking around for Mommy or Daddy and there’s monsters all around him. Fuck you guys if you don’t think that’s a horrible thing to do to a kid, especially in the name of “art” (shitty music video for shitty pretentious looking band).
Kerzain, the huge difference in your Small, Small World story, other than the age difference pointed out already, is that I’m betting you had Mommy, Daddy, or an older sibling right next to you to cling on to when you were scared, and say assuring things. This kid didn’t until after they’d gotten their shot.
I’m not saying the kid’s going to be warped by this, but I’m betting he’ll have some nasty nightmares and be pretty damn clingy for a while. But that’s not the point. The point is that it’s a fucked up thing to do to a child, and I’m pretty surprised that the rest of you armchair parents’ arguing against is “Who cares, he won’t remember it anyway and it was LULZ.” Christ, people.
Ya, you’d also survive water-boarding.
Yeah, except that’s not what’s being said. It’s a special-effects laden music video. You don’t think it’s possible any of it was edited to show the kid being frightened without actually frightening him? And the whole “you don’t have kids, so STFU!” bullshit is tired.
It’s distasteful if you think the video’s just about scaring a child. They weren’t going for the “LOL, stupid kid!” angle…
Try re-reading both of my posts. Also, I don’t have kids.
It’s possible. Then again, it’s a whole lot cheaper to do it without special effects, and I’m really, really jaded about people in general.
And although the “you don’t have kids” thing is tired, having been in a position where I didn’t have kids, and having my perspective absolutely and totally shift after that, it is a HUGE, if tired, thing.
Mordrak
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I think the haunted house or a kid being scared by a movie is an accurate analogy. Sure, the kid was frightened, but it’s like telling them about the boogeyman or the kid exchange. Heh. I think it’s pretty obvious the kid was upset, how much to be being cranky or the outfits, I don’t know. I don’t think it was all clever editing.
