WarrenD
1841
I was really surprised when I bought the game last week and got it home only to find out I couldn’t play it.The Minimum system requirements on the box asks for a Direct X 9.c video card with 128MB RAM, so I thought I was good to go, nothing about requiring pixel shader 3 anywhere I could see.
Fortunately quickly searching the net turned up ShaderShockand and the really helpful folks there.
And from my end it was such a quick fix, that I’m still shocked really that they wouldn’t have an install choice right off the bat, like I said earlier the game looks great, I’m running at med/high graphics with a nice smooth frame rate.
There are still a lot of gamers using a little older technology that will end up just not being able to play this game…weird.
Kadath
1842
Pretty sure I do have an X800 in it. I plan on buying a pretty decent new rig in October so maybe I will wait until then, but I will check the model in this box and that link too.
I suppose that depends on what you mean by “still being sold.” SM3 video cards have been out for four years now since the GeForce 6000 series came out; even by last summer, that wasn’t exactly bleeding edge. We also eventually abandoned DX8 support, even though there were people still using DX8 video cards at the time.
Pogo
1844
Even if a 9600XT had Shader 3.0 support, the game would run like complete ass.
I see no problem with a game requiring 3 year old tech at its release.
since i was banished from the bargain thread i’ll post here.
another user linked to the take 2 forums as we were discussing the removal of the bioshock “activation limits” he was one of the “mistaken” ones. i registered and set the record straight. here’s my post. many of you may dislike me for my freedom fighter ideals. but if you prove one statement i say there as not factual i’ll send you my copy of stalker as a free gift*. (limit of one game per 1st respondent only)
I find it funny that you simultaneously lack any comprehension of the principles of both capitalism and capitalization.
Lh_owon
1847
Let us now have a moment of silence for the tragic passing of Mario_AU’s caps lock and both shift keys, all slain in a tragic keyboard accident.
The sunny fields of proper punctuation are behind us, but never forgotten.
Chuck
1848
Since we are talking about Bioshock, here’s a cool little thing I found. Could be a spoiler, I guess.
Possible spoiler alert:
So I’m in the wonderful world of Sander Cohen, wandering around the theater balcony, when I spot a tonic in a seemingly unreachable area. I clear out some rubble, step back and leap across the gap between the two balconies, and grab the tonic. Pretty easy stuff, but what was cool was to suddenly hear Sander complement me on my “athletic ability.”
Total wink to the classic “Nice Jump” in System Shock.
Pogo
1849
“freedom fighter ideals”
That whole pile of vomit you linked to was barely readable. You might as well have it annotated as a comment on PirateBay.
Pogo
1850
I don’t remember getting a tonic there. Cool.
crombie
1851
“the reason it took “2 weeks” to crack it is simply because it was the 1st game to use this kind of protection. don’t laud that as a positive. it’s a downward sliding scale based on new technology.”
nope. wrong. incorrect. try again.
Funny this thread gets ressurected just as I’m replaying the game.
I started playing when I needed a game that wouldn’t interfere with the Too Human demo download and I threw it in.
Totally hooked again. Gorgeous, scary and fun. I might be enjoying it more the second time through.
Quite a year for games - Portal, Bioshock and COD4.
The problem with having to support legacy tech is that you can’t have any actual gameplay rely on the fancier technology. I dunno if there’s anything in Bioshock’s gameplay that uses Shader Model 3 (I don’t even really know what differs between 2 and 3), but that could easily have been a concern.
It’s why DirectX 10 currently just means a few slightly prettier graphical effects rather than any significant paradigm changes - too many of us behind-the-curve folks that don’t have DX10 cards or Vista.
Of course, Microsoft didn’t have to make DX10 Vista-only, either. I’ve got a DX10 card, but don’t plan to get Vista till it comes “free” on a new machine.
bago
1855
If you can afford a DX 10 card you can afford vista. People get annoyed at vista because it keeps asking you if you really want to modify the system when you are setting up, when of course you want to modify the system. And that forms their first time user experience. However once you get past that and you notice some flash ad bypassing adobe code access security trying to install some blackhat app on your system that you truly appreciate it.
Oh, but I don’t visit pr0n/warez sites, I’ll be fine?
No you won’t, there are exploit networks that buy ads on legit sites with highly obfuscated code, blacklists, and timebombs that will run those flash exploits when you least expect them, and add you as a zombie. Ad traffickers aren’t actionscript experts, and the blacklists will prevent the targeted company from ever seeing the exploit. That’s when you appreciate OS level protection.
Being able to afford one thing or the other doesn’t mean you can afford both.
bago
1857
See, if you can actually afford a Mercedes, you buy one and use it. If it gets screwed up up you fix it, because you can afford to. If you cannot afford it, you become overprotective, and become that asshole double parking to ensure no other cars get close enough to ding it and cover it with a car cloth in an underground parking garage. In other words, a total douchebag obsessed with status symbols.
Any word if the pc version will get an update to include some of the new stuff in the ps3 version?
Can I get an OEM version of Vista Home Premium without jumping through hoops or buying a major piece of hardware? Don’t a lot of (not-that-old) games choke on Vista (at least the 64 bit version)? I worry that it won’t work well with my now 2.5-year+ old hardware, too. I don’t even have a dual-core processor (got a socket 939 AMD64 3500+ “Venice”–and since it’s a 939, can’t really upgrade in a way that makes financial sense without ripping the entire guts out of my case).
I’m not worried about pr0n and warez sites because I don’t go to them (unless you count GCW in the “warez” category).
At new egg, you can buy a mouse and have it count as a hardware purchase for Vista.
