She could resign, she could go back to the EU, she could call a GE, she could bring her vote back to the Commons, she could say she’s preparing for No Deal, she could say/do nothing at all…
Aceris
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What she should do is allow for indicative votes on no deal and 2nd referendum. If either wins she should try to extend A50 and trigger a GE (since a Cons government can’t be seen to have enabled 2nd referendum). If neither wins she is free to make it a choice between no deal and May’s deal, unless Labour can put together the votes for no-confidence.
The purpose of a GE would be to force Labour to end their ambiguity. The danger (from May’s perspective) in a GE is that either Labour campaigning on “Norway plus” (or “EU minus” as I prefer to call it) might manage to hang on to both their remain and leave voters, or Labour leadership are able to appeal to leavers while Labour MPs locally appeal to remainers(*).
(*: And people here seem keen to insult leavers intelligence, while forgetting that most remainers voted for a party lead by the most eurosceptic party leader we’ve seen in this country since 1983. )
That’s possible. But she’s, even as of yesterday, been damning those options.
I think there’s a good chance she just quits.
spiffy
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Her deal is basically the compromise between migration and the inevitable hit to the economy, yes? A Norway deal will have the Leavers frothing about migration still. So if not her deal, it’s either Remain in EU or No Deal, we’re on our own in a tanking economy. I think Corbyn actually wants that one so he can build his little socialist paradise from the ashes, but can’t dare say so.
We could be in the Customs Union without free movement of labour.
Betting odds from a major bookie
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spiffy
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Are you sure? I thought it was this:
“Norway is also outside the EU, but is a member of the European Economic Area (EEA). As such, Norway must apply the same free movement rules as EU member states, but has no vote on the rules. The EEA Agreement with the EU does include ‘safeguard measures’ allowing the parties to take “appropriate measures” if serious “economic, societal or environmental difficulties of a sectorial or regional nature liable to persist are arising”. In an extreme case, such measures may be used to limit EU migration – but could only be temporary.”
Yes, Norway is not in the Customs Union.
You can be un the Customs Union and not in the single Market.
However that would mean no separate trade deals and basically losing control of the economy and just controlling immigration in exchange for financial services and other stuff (custom Union regulates goods only).
It will be certainly better than no deal but it will eliminate tariffs in exchange for any independence or control in trade policy.
You’re reiterating that Brexit is a bad idea! I agree.
I can only look at the impending vote and see it as a pointless as will be May’s actions afterwards. From the get go there were only two possible outcomes to this shitshow. No-deal or pretend the entire referendum didn’t happen. There is no middle road possible given the realities of the current situation.
Delay article 50 (this has already been floated by the EU as feasible). Renegotiation or maybe elections or second referendum. Then accept Customs Union (avoid tariffs) or Economic Area membership (Brexit by name only)…
There are options if they avoid no-deal.
I mean, that’s basically May’s deal, until the backstop is replaced.
People can indeed arrive at the same destination via different paths, but the traditional line on Corbyn and his anti-EU bent is that he’s anti-EU because he wants a UK where he can build a socialist workers’ paradise; and I, for one, don’t believe that this particular reason is what motivated most voters to cast their vote for Brexit. There’s nothing in the polling on the Brexit referendum outcome to indicate any real support for that position.
In a population of 100, 50 will be below average and 50 above.
As for the rest; I was trying to explain IQ or whatever metric isn’t what some people are referring to when using the word stupid. Or as Forrest Gump would say, “Stupid is as stupid does.” Some of the most brilliant people in the world can be stupid, and I’d argue we all are from time to time. As as for your point about high emotions, being that easily manipulated falls under that umbrella.
Not quite. “Average” usually means “the mean” - take all the numbers, add them up, divide by the number of things. With the mean/average, a few exceptional results can make it so that there’s not 50% below the average and 50% above. For example, think of a population of 10 people where 9 have an IQ of 100 … and the tenth has an IQ of 1000.
There’s a different concept, the median, which is defined as the number where there’s 50% below and 50% above.
(In a lot of circumstances the mean and the median are similar … but a lot of times they aren’t as well. They tend to be similar for IQs, for example, but not, say, incomes.)
Yes, and let’s not forget mode.
magnet
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However, the most common IQ test in use today has a maximum score of 160 and a minimum score of 40, which counteracts the effects of extreme outliers.
