Brexit, aka, the UK Becomes a Clown Car of the Highest Order

Fifth_Fret · 2019-01-29T21:12:57.155Z

GiveBlood 🅰️🅱️🆎🅾️ (GiveBloodNHS)

@RachelLK We have taken the decision to cancel blood donation sessions in Dover and Folkestone for a 2 week period before and a 6 week period after Britain’s exit from the EU. This is because in the event of issues in Calais and other freight ports, this could lead to significant (1/2)

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GiveBlood 🅰️🅱️🆎🅾️ (GiveBloodNHS)

@TwonRue traffic in Kent and may prevent donation teams from reaching or leaving venues in the area. We will hold replacement sessions at other locations and we will still be in a position to provide the necessary blood to hospitals. (2/2)

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playingwithknives · 2019-01-29T21:21:04.912Z

lol that’s what they voted for. Enjoy the 3 hour commute you wankers.

edit: um referring to Kent in general, not blood teams.

draxen · 2019-01-29T21:33:46.274Z

Fifth_Fret:

“We have taken the decision to cancel blood donation sessions in Dover and Folkestone for a 2 week period before and a 6 week period after Britain’s exit from the EU. This is because in the event of issues in Calais and other freight ports, this could lead to significant”

Sounds like more fear mongering to me.

Sky News

NHS blood donation clinics in Kent not cancelled despite Brexit traffic fears

Sessions in Kent were thought to have been cancelled over an eight-week period amid concerns of traffic jams.

Fifth_Fret · 2019-01-29T22:09:53.138Z

That’s pretty weird.

Mike Stredder, director of blood donation for NHS blood and transport, said six donation sessions would be cancelled in Dover and Folkestone because of the potential return of Operation Stack.
But the Department of Health has now moved to deny that statement, with a source telling Sky News that a proposal to cancel sessions “was not cleared”.

Weird.

YakAttack · 2019-01-29T22:09:59.913Z

WTF does Brexit have to do with blood donations?!

Fifth_Fret · 2019-01-29T22:10:11.874Z

Traffic jams.

DarthMasta · 2019-01-29T22:16:00.130Z

I’m sure that now, with the backstop truly rejected, the EU will very quickly agree to something else. :D

playingwithknives · 2019-01-29T22:18:07.498Z

A Brexiter replies. All is fine. We are pounding the EU.

bagdad-bob

DarthMasta · 2019-01-29T22:36:55.640Z

I’ve got to say, this whole inability to negotiate something that’s mutually agreeable must be making an awesome impression on the people the UK will next want to make trade deals with.

Aceris · 2019-01-29T23:21:14.477Z

DarthMasta:

I’ve got to say, this whole inability to negotiate something that’s mutually agreeable must be making an awesome impression on the people the UK will next want to make trade deals with.

To be fair today’s votes made it clear the problem is the backstop (despite claims by EU diplomats to the contrary after the last WA vote). So we should be able to make deals that don’t involve Ireland!

Thinking about this tonight this is yet another instance of the two sides not understanding each other. From the EU’s perspective the idea that NI being part of the EU was utterly critical (which maybe it was, I’m not saying this is necessarily wrong) to the peace process plays into the EU-as-peacebringer founding mythos, and so it becomes a moral imperative to maintain that state of affairs. From the UK side anyone with sympathy towards unionism in general (although not the DUP in specific) sees a deal that almost every unionist denounces and thinks that would be disastrous to the peace process, so it becomes a moral imperative to oppose it.

Certainly the Westminster tendency to try and ignore NI whenever possible has been hugely unhelpful.

YakAttack:

UK made deals to enter the EU and then reneged. How long until they renege on the deals they’re making (or not making yet) now?

That’s nonsense. The EU agreed to give all states the right to withdraw.

YakAttack · 2019-01-29T23:29:01.393Z

UK made deals to enter the EU and then reneged. How long until they renege on the deals they’re making (or not making yet) now?

scottagibson · 2019-01-29T23:33:25.010Z

Aceris:

So we should be able to make deals that don’t involve Ireland!

Except that you already agreed to the backstop, and now you’re reneging on that deal. Why should anyone trust you as a negotiating partner?

scottagibson · 2019-01-29T23:35:31.426Z

Have to share this.

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Paul McAuley (UnlikelyWorlds)

On a train, passing through the old battlefields of a united Europe, while Britain puts the finishing touches to the longest suicide note in history.

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Ginger_Yellow · 2019-01-29T23:35:59.950Z

YakAttack:

How long until they renege on the deals they’re making (or not making yet) now?

checks notes A few hours ago.

DarthMasta · 2019-01-29T23:40:35.718Z

If those deals involve going against what was promised to Ireland, then the EU would be stupid to consider them. You do not majorly piss off a member of the Union for the sake of a third country.

Anyway, the EU already said they’re not going to renegotiate, let’s see how solid that commitment is

Aceris · 2019-01-29T23:41:08.910Z

Ginger_Yellow:

checks notes A few hours ago.

Failing to ratify a treaty is not “reneging on a deal”, as you well know.

Ginger_Yellow · 2019-01-29T23:42:34.748Z

The government accepting and backing a hostile amendment which rewrites the deal is, though.

scottagibson · 2019-01-29T23:43:09.823Z

Aceris:

Failing to ratify a treaty is not “reneging on a deal”, as you well know.

Of course it is. It may be the right choice, depending on the deal, but agreeing to a deal and then backing out of it is reneging.

Aceris · 2019-01-29T23:46:29.241Z

Ginger_Yellow:

The government accepting and backing a hostile amendment which rewrites the deal is, though.

It would be if they could pass the deal. I think we all know they can’t.

Aceris · 2019-01-29T23:48:32.453Z

DarthMasta:

If those deals involve going against what was promised to Ireland, then the EU would be stupid to consider them. You do not majorly piss off a member of the Union for the sake of a third country.

Anyway, the EU already said they’re not going to renegotiate, let’s see how solid that commitment is

I have no idea what you’re responding to. Maybe you should read my post more carefully?

I certainly don’t expect the EU to change their stance on the backstop, I don’t know what gave you the idea that I did.