In this connection, if your DVR recorded the rerun of SNL’s Christmas episode from last year, you could do worse than to watch the Brexit themed Happy Christmas, Britain! sketch with the always brilliant Kate McKinnon playing a very frustrated Theresa May.
Did we (as a nation, not you and I obviously) not intact vote for pain?
I was bitching way back in 2016 about how bullshit this all was. Burned a few friendships that way because I didn’t see how the process could be painless even if the end result could possibly have been good.
But hey, look at the bus!
What we are seeing now is the fight over what history will say.
Reports out of Brussels now is that May went into the meeting asking for the June 30 deadline, in order to give her leverage to get the deal accepted (i.e., this is her communication to the other EU leaders). During the meeting, she then apparently pivots to being willing to accept a No (and a No Deal Brexit), with a narrative that it’s the EU throwing the UK out of Europe.
The EU does not like the last one bit, of course; they want it to be clear that it is the UK that is leaving the Federation by its own choice and that the choice to leave with no deal is the UK’s alone. Thus the multi-step plan for the final Brexit giving the UK every opportunity to decide something (anything).
So, maybe some actually astute negotiation from May, for once? I guess we’ll see as the farce continues. Though personally, I’m more convinced now that we’ll end up in a no-deal brexit. The Banks agree, it seems: Goldman Sachs has the chances of May’s deal being accepted down to 50% from 60% yesterday; and the chances of no-deal Brexit increasing from 5% to 15%. Pound also crashed, from the news I’ve seen.
About half my income is in euros, so my bets are hedged no matter which of the 2 goes up relative to the other.
So, silver lining being my euros may be worth more £ now?
Ofcourse food will disappear off the shelves soon and we’ll be resorting to cannibalism (which is one way to end the obesity and elderly citizens crises I suppose) according to the newspapers so it’s a moot point?
draxen
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Uri Geller will save us from the Apocalypse :)
So, the plans for No Deal Brexit have been leaked.
tl;dr We’re fucked. We don’t know how fucked because the government has plastered trade, industry and civil services with gag orders.
Just remember, the government that can’t deliver any coherent plans and is an absolute shitshow unprecedented in the history of the modern West is “stockpiling”. Which basically meant, someone has written down the need to plan for medicine shortages on a piece of paper somewhere.
People are going to die. Every person arguing for No Deal Brexit is doing so knowing what they want will kill innocent people.
No need to worry about insulin. The US will sell it to you for $1,000 per person per month. We’ll also take Euros. No pounds though.
Miramon
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Probably not actually written down as such. Grayling has contracted the pharma planning out to a firm in Belarus that specializes in pizza delivery, paying in bitcoins, and he’s beginning to grow a bit anxious that they haven’t responded yet…
draxen
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I stumbled across a Youtube channel that has some good content. I thought you guys might be interested.
Good stuff. I have been nerding out on this
plus if you are suuuper into it this is well worth a wade into
I am a bit of a UK system of government fanboy so this seeing how the system handles high crisis is awesome to me.
I am amazed its handling it so well in the face of a complete government incompetence coupled with a split country on an issue which is genuinely an important one on which reasonable people can disagree or change their minds.
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draxen
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Hehe you and me both. Thanks for the vids :)
I watched the first one and enjoyed it, going through the 2nd now.
draxen
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I think the so called “peoples vote”, also known as “the losers vote” by Brexiteers (an equally ridiculous and incendiary monicker) should be renamed to the “headless chicken” vote. Regardless of what you call a 2nd referendum it’s a terrible solution to the current problem of Brexit. It would serve no purpose other than to waste time and money and would just lead to the nation being more deeply divided on the issue. The 2016 referendum result must be upheld.
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spiffy
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I have no problem with dividing the nation if it means a dwindling aging population will be the loser. They can die off stewing in their ideas of lost empire, while the young and employed can continue to live their lives free of economic turbulence and increased austerity that hard Brexit would bring.
But I love reading your arguments, Draxen, which devolve around insisting a 2% lead on a deeply fraudulent voting campaign should be sacrosanct.
The ethno-nationalists will be mostly dead soon, other than the Alt Right Nazis in UKIP.
4 million signatures in 3 days. The Tories will be extinct when their current voterbase dies. The younger ethno-nationalists and neonazis in UKIP are too toxic and involved with far right terrorism to ever leave the fringes. I look forward to full EU and Euro and Euro Army integration in a few years.
btw Pro-Brexit protests have fizzled out. No support. Anywhere. Other than Noisy Nazis on socmedia and in yellow jackets.
there are a few hundred thousand Remain marchers in London today to counter Farages 2 dozen Brexiters on their pub crawl.
I met Uri Geller when I was a sweet and innocent 16 year old, and didn’t care much for him then.
Now that I am a more cynical, experienced adult, I care for him even less.
Sarcasm?
I for one respect draxen for putting his* points across, even if I deeply deeply disagree with just about everything he has written.
At least he puts together an argument. Most Brexiteers I know just froth at the mouth randomly and mumble about bent bananas and some such.
*I’m assuming draxen is a male.
