Brexit, aka, the UK Becomes a Clown Car of the Highest Order

[Miramon]

I mean Hastings wasn’t Harold’s fault because a) he didn’t choose to be invaded from all sides at once, and b) he was recovering from Stamford Bridge a few days before. Whereas the Tories have deliberately chosen Brexit.

[Sharpe]

Although it’s not British, I believe the Battle of Manzikert is a better parallel: it was a battle the Byzantines chose to initiate, the campaign was handled badly with mixed signals to/from various allies, and the battle itself was a major disaster for the Byzantines, marked by retreat, treachery, dissension and ultimate defeat.

[scottagibson]

The Irish Border (BorderIrish)

[Fifth_Fret]

So May refused to change her position and just repeated her deal over and over again?

If only we could have foreseen this outcome.

[BloodyBattleBrain]

I mean Hastings wasn’t Harold’s fault because a) he didn’t choose to be invaded from all sides at once,

We are digressing wildly here, but by selling his brother out and not killing him, he let his brother (Tostig) team up with Hadrada the Dane, so he (Harold) did open himself up to a double invasion.

b) he was recovering from Stamford Bridge a few days before.

It’s been questioned whether it was worth fighting in the north.

Could the Danes have occupied and held the north for any length of time?

Following Stamford Bridge, did Harold have to force march down to the south. I mean, it was some 100 miles in 3 days with full equipment I think.

That would be impressive by today’s standards.

[BloodyBattleBrain]

Whereas the Tories have deliberately chosen Brexit.

And this is pure madness…so stupid, so weird, and supposedly in the name of the people.

[ineffablebob]

I enjoyed this description of the current situation from Charlie Stross.

So the Article 50 deadline has passed and we’re now in penalty time. The British team is still arguing violently with itself while water pours through the changing room ceiling and the EU team looks on, bemused. 75% of the UK fans don’t understand why they’re playing this match and don’t want to be there but the gates are locked until someone wins, and because nobody on the UK side read the rules their team is outnumbered 27 to 1 on the football pitch. The British team all hate their manager and want to sack her but they can’t agree on a replacement; meanwhile the defenders are antsy because they placed bets on the outcome (they bet heavily that the other side would win) and they want to get to the betting shop. It turns out that most of them don’t understand the rules of the game; some of them thought it was a cricket match, and two of them are playing bowls.

[Timex]

And this is pure madness…so stupid, so weird, and supposedly in the name of the people.

I think if you look through history, you’ll find that some of the worst decisions made by man kind have been done in the name of populism.

[BloodyBattleBrain]

Sounds like the twit olympics.

[legowarrior]

As well as some great decisions. Teddy Roosevelt’s term in office was in part due to populism at the time.

Bismark followed the will of the people when it came to providing a basic social net for people (to undercut his opponents).

Personally, I think religion has been used to justify way worse decisions.

[playingwithknives]

Then how about religion, populism and nationalism? All in one.

Something wicked is stirring once again in the North

[scottagibson]

I guess May’s outreach to Corbyn to strike a compromise deal actually meant she was just asking him to agree to her deal after all.

Andrea Leadsom: no-deal Brexit next week would not be so grim

[KevinC]

It’s easy for me to say because I’m not affected by it, but at this point it’s just like… look, if you are hell-bent on going forward with this, then just pull the trigger and get it over with so the cleanup crew can get to work on fixing the mess you’re going to leave behind. The perpetual state of extensions and gridlock just doesn’t seem sustainable.

[Timex]

[Ginger_Yellow]

Ireland publishes its no deal procedures for agricultural trade.. Among other things, this seems to mean no trade across the land border, at least until Ireland builds and staffs some border inspection posts there.

The consignment may only enter Ireland through an approved Border Inspection Post (BIP).
6. At least 24 hours before the physical arrival of the consignment in Ireland, the person responsible for the load must complete Part 1 of the Common Veterinary Entry Document (CVED) in the EU TRAde Control and Expert System (TRACES).
7. The consignment must be presented to the BIP where it will be subjected to official controls. These official controls will include documentary checks and identity checks, and may include physical checks, including the taking of samples for laboratory testing.

[geggis]

I don’t know whether to flip a table, cry or cry with laughter. Perhaps all three.

Channel 4 Dispatches (C4Dispatches)

[BennyProfane]

That is (sadly) hilarious.

[KevinC]

Yeah, I find that just sad. Not sad for the farmer, just sad at the thought process (or lack of it) behind a lot of the current movements in the US and the UK. You see similar stuff in the US ag business.

Well, if any of you Brits need a couch to stay on for a while after Brexit just me know. We still have insulin here, for now!

[Woolen_Horde]

Maybe he hopes the UK will take-in Mexicans?

[BloodyBattleBrain]

The entire African continent will be happy to come do farm labour…

:roll eyes: