Only a few more decades and they will be extinct. Average member age is 75. They are doomed.
The pragmatist in me would’ve less scathing of a Rory Stewart or Sajid Javid lead Tory party tbh and even somewhat disarmed by Stewarts intelligence and knowledge and experience.Still scum, but not an overtly mentalist ethno-nationalist bigot scum that they chose to be by putting in that gibbering racist baboon of a joke in charge. Boris is Trump basically. A slightly different version, thick as shit in his own way without the raging ignorance of Trump, but still a shit flinging, publicly masturbating monkey of a man.
draxen
4953
Always nice to get a fair and measured point of view. Thanks :)
If Boris was a monkey he’d be the one masturbating in the corner then licking its hand. I don’t think I could describe Johnson better tbh.
Most Tory MPs would probably agree, so many have been stabbed in the back or fucked over by him that comparisons to horrible dirty little wanking monkeys is probably the nicer things being said about him in Westminster right now.
Apparently my post is hidden because I upset some of our Tories.
When you guys apologise for Windrush and undo the damage it caused, bring back the 100,000 killed by austerity and eliminate the massive increase in racism caused by your government, its policies and your members ill apologise and edit the post.
Britain gets to enjoy more job cuts due to Brexit (and other factors like Turnip’s dumb trade war). Wales loses a plant, France loses a plant, and Russia loses 3 plants.
KevinC
4957
I understand where you’re coming from. I get the rage and the fear, they’re both justified and well deserved.
That being said, while I didn’t flag your post, I can’t condone the rhetoric of referring to other groups (even dangerous or hateful ones) of not being human. That’s fascist language, and it makes me feel ill.
They’re human, just the awful, hateful, and/or evil kind. Wanting to see them suffer? Totally get it. Wishing them bodily harm? I understand where you’re coming from, we have our share of graveshitting and “first up against the wall” comments on this side of the pond. Saying “It’s a Tory, not a human” is a line I don’t think you should cross, though. Don’t become that which you hate, you are a better and stronger person than that.
Sorry if I come across as sanctimonious. That’s not my intent, but I didn’t know how else to say what I wanted to without sounding that way. I hope the good people can take your country back, like I do my own. Feel free to PM me if you need to vent to a sympathetic ear.
draxen
4958
Respectfully…
As evidenced from my many posts on the subject. I don’t get the rage and fear. They are not justified in my opinion. The Conservative party is not like the US Republican party, they are much more akin to the Democrats (as far as I can tell and with my very limited knowledge of US politics).
The Conservative Party are center-right. They legislated for same-sex marriage, they support equal adoption rights for same-sex couples, they are pro choice, they are in favor of and support multiculturalism.
I see no evidence that the Tories have turned the UK into a hotbed of racism. According to the EU (thanks EU!) in 2018 the UK was one of the most tolerant countries in Europe!
Violence motivated by racism:
The lowest rates were observed in Portugal (2%) and the United Kingdom (3%).
“Portugal and the United Kingdom show the lowest 12-month racist victimisation rates.”
https://fra.europa.eu/en/publication/2018/eumidis-ii-being-black
I find it perfectly acceptable to vehemently disagree with Tory policies - that’s politics. I think it’s even perfectly valid to “hate” individual Tory MPs because you dislike the cut of their jib or you believe they’ll fuck up the country. It’s just that to view the entire Tory Party as hateful, and/or evil (and with such burning hatred) is a twisted and distorted world view. It has no basis in reality.
EDIT
I’m not even a Conservative supporter (despite any evidence to the contrary).
Much of the legislation passed to that effect was done so by the coalition, against the wishes of many in the party. Yes, there were many Tories who held those more progressive views. But you may have also noticed many of those MPs are no longer. Then, and especially now, the Tory party is the home in British politics for MPs who are very much against those things.
So no, I don’t think they are like the Democrats on social issues. Not right now.
I don’t see any difference between the Trump Bannon right wing ethno-nationalism that puts babies in concentration camps and childrens corpses floating on the Rio Grande and the Johnson Bannon right wing ethno-nationalism that’s leading to the same far right white glove fascist govt in the UK. I have no problem with dehumanising and calling for direct action against those that empower and enable the evil this brand of politics represents.
This is all merely preemptive defence. Standing against it now might stop a few more dead people in the future, be it dead kids through disease and mistreatment in US concentration camps, or the 6 stone skeletons starved to death through Tory policies on benefits and social welfare, or the utter cruelty inflicted on sick and dying immigrants and asylum seekers through the Tory “hostile environment” policies.
Sounds just like what a right winger would say.
Again, sounds just like a fascist.
Or a stalinist.
Totalitarian, black and white ideology.
Hateful stuff.
And you’re espousing it.
Is putting children in concentration camps and denying them basic hygenie and comfort a humane, or an inhumane action?
If the second, am I dehumanising these new fascists or just stating a fact?
Oh, and if you’ve not heard the phrase “the only good Tory is a dead Tory” then i can guarantee you have never ever been part of the Labour Party.
Lammy has no problem with fighting supremacists by any means nesscary
and the front bench push it to a limit even i wouldnt cross just after a terrorist attack
According to an authoritative parliamentary reference work, Mr Corbyn was general secretary of the editorial board. He wrote the front-page story in the same issue of Briefing.
The same edition of Briefing, for December 1984, carried a reader’s letter praising the “audacity” of the IRA attack and stating: “What do you call four dead Tories? A start.”
It mocked Norman, now Lord, Tebbit, the trade secretary who was dug out of the rubble of the Grand Hotel, saying: “Try riding your bike now, Norman.
so spare the faux outrage for these evil bastards. Whatever shreds of decency left in the Conservatives, the Stewarts, Mercers or Clarkes of the world, or the other ones who resigned Allen, Soubry etc, the last few people in the centre right have no power, obliterated in the leadership elections and shoved off to the side by the hard right nationalists and fled the party. Even at local level its UKIP land now with Remainers like Grieve has been deselected by far right nationalist entryists from UKIP and BNP etc. The Tories belong to the same team as Bannon and Trump now, and fuck their evil, cold rotten hearts for all eternity.
This thing is killing me this morning.
That they should turn their backs on the sublimely uplifting notes of the Ode to Joy illustrates how debased and vile they all are.
draxen
4966
I think the entire thing is pretty dumb. That the EU has a national anthem and that The Brexit Party used it as a form of protest. Still, it was a pretty effective statement. It was a silent act that caused no interruption of proceedings and it generated a lot of press for The Brexit Party.
The EU does not have a national anthem, because it is not a nation per se, it has an anthem, full stop.
Why is it weird the EU has an anthem, given the kind of institution it is?
ShivaX
4968
The Confederate States of America had an anthem.
Lynch
4969
Pretty effective in showing that these people are a bunch of populist dumbasses who thankfully will leave the parliament soon. The rest of the EU has had enough of the UK way before Brexit.
spiffy
4970
Yeah, exactly. Yes, a bunch of idiots who vote for idiots and expect idiocy, and who will never think beyond that, will enjoy the spectacle and publicity; and everyone else, including the thinking few that prefer Brexit but don’t mouth breath, will (maybe just maybe) suddenly wonder if electing a bunch of idiots to ruin relations with their biggest trading partner was a good idea after all.
