Yes, I failed to point out
0: this whole thing is a simple party-politics power play that never had anything to do with the EU, but was simply a pathetic ploy by Cameron to ensure his faction’s continued dominance with a referendum over an issue chosen to distinguish the populist faction from his own.
But he (and Labour too) failed to reckon with the utter contempt with which the people held the leadership of all the parties.
I hope Cameron is immortalised and reviled in the same way Chamberlain is. Both have delivered results to the far right ultranationalists.
Could mean that Williamson’s claims of innocence were true. More parsimonious to suggest one leaker than two.
draxen
5054
RichVR
5056
Your Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -6.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.69
Oghier
5057
We all look pretty similar so far.
Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.79
draxen
5059
I’ve no idea how good the accuracy is, I just thought it was interesting.
Here are the political parties from the 2017 election.
https://www.politicalcompass.org/uk2017
Hansey
5061
I won’t bother posting the graphic for mine, but it’s basically similar to everyone else’s that’s been posted so far. A few of the questions though were tough to answer because my real answer was “it depends”. Though I think there were only a couple of those, so it probably would not have made much of an impact.
Mine was further left and further down than the others I’ve seen. But the survey seems flawed to me, as it clearly assumes import for some questions about which I was basically meh, and a response of ‘meh’ isn’t permitted.
There’s too much good/evil options taken straight from crappy console RPGs too. The fact everyone seems to be listed to the left of Labour is laughable, this forum is a Marxist-Leninist hotbed now? I dont think so lol. Labour is notably authoritarian too, especially the current hard left leaderships voting record on digital freedoms, press freedom, privacy etc
and in my regular Let’s Look Into The Mind Of A Brexiter link…
draxen
5065
I think I found a better test if anyone can be arsed doing it again :)
(I don’t blame you if you can’t be bothered)
https://8values.github.io/
Here’s my score on the new one:
https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=55.5&d=52.7&g=66.2&s=69.1
Otagan
5066
I opted to humor you one more time.
Sharpe
5067
I’ve tried a number of these tests over the years and I just think they are all terrible. The questions are full of assumptions, vague wording, and oversimplifications. I tried both of these posted in this thread recently and decided not to finish both, b/c the questions were just so poor.
draxen
5068
I know what you mean. I think it’s a difficult problem to solve.
Sharpe
5069
And here’s an example of why surveys like this are damn near impossible to get right, germane to the discussion in this thread: how exactly do you poll for racial animus? Very few people with significant racial animus are going to answer poll questions truthfully, so asking the question in a naked fashion is not likely to yield accurate results. So you end up with weak and euphemistic phrasing, which is also not going to yield accurate results.
Then there’s also the reality that nowadays the political groups are not just separated by differences in values but also by differences in perceptions of reality: those who get their info from the US and UK right wing media are getting a highly concentrated stream of “alternate facts” while the rest of the audience has to muddle along with the typically inadequate mainstream media, which while not nearly as bad as right wing media, is not necessarily a paragon of clear and objective factual reporting.
On top of all that, there’s also the reality that there’s a whole lot of tribalism going on rather than individual policy preferences determining voting and party affiliation.
I’ll do the 2nd test soon
