5959

I binged on a bunch of Danish TV a while ago so I was sorta inmersed in the language and culture, I started Duolingo Danish and followed some danish newspapers in Twitter. After a few months I could even read novels in Danish. But I can’t understand 1 in 10 words of spoken Danish.
This is the second best norwegian sketch about danish (I understand the norwegian guy quite decently).

Back to Brexit, I’ll just say that as an avowed anglophile, I despair.

5960

which seems to me the best case scenario of any Brexit. :(

5961
5962

Even though it looks like an even split between conservatives/brexit vs. Labour/LD/Greens, the fact that the voting system is first-past-the-post makes the polls look like an easy win for Johnson and no deal Brexit. In fact, I don’t know why anyone at all still intends to vote for the Brexit party when the leader of the Conservatives is trying his best to get no deal asap.

As much as I liked Corbyn when he started, it sounds like a new leader for Labour (or at least, some other way for them to get much of the LD vote) is the only hope for the centre/left in the coming election.

5963

Would Corbyn stepping down and allowing someone else without his baggage turn the tables and allow the remain forces to coalesce among a single party?

5964

There might not be enough time - last time there was a leadership election it took about three months, from a no-confidence vote in June to the results in September. Although whether that could be sped up if Corbyn stepped down voluntarily and there was only one candidate nominated to replace him, I’m not sure.

5965

Number 10 has been taken over by a bunch of fucking psychopaths

5966

So parliament is not even sticking around in session to do anything at all? As an American this whole thing is pretty incomprehensible.

Downing Street has confirmed Parliament will be prorogued - or suspended - from the end of Monday’s sitting until 14 October.

5967

This is what 21st century fascism looks like.

5968

and this is what the pro-Brexit protests produce. Every single pro-Brexit rally seems to contain, without fail, a far right neonazi march.

5969

Basically, yes. His choice to prorogue parliament is legal and is vested in the office of the PM. It’s not something that parliament can vote about - the only way they could have changed this would be to have held a vote of no-confidence to oust him and insert an interim PM in 10 Downing Street. Which may still happen, but it doesn’t look like parliament is ready for that just yet.

5970

Soo… what does that mean? Is parliament suspended or not?

5971

How about the leader of the Liberal Democrats? I don’t know who that is, but is that someone more palatable who people can rally around instead of Corbyn?

5972

Parliament is still suspended, but Boris is required by law to seek a Brexit extension. Whether he’ll obey the law is another matter.

5973

Yes, it will still be suspended tonight and return on October 14.

Last week Parliament voted to force the PM to seek a Brexit extension, so now that law is official.

5974

What comments like this are missing is that the thing Corbyn cares about the most is becoming PM. He is a vocal EU critic, who even now genuinely wants some form of a Brexit to happen. It’s just that openly cheering for a no-deal Brexit would make his position untenable.

His best case scenario is to be the next one who gets to try to negotiate a deal. The second best scenario is a no-deal where all the blame for the disaster falls on Boris. But stepping down or getting somebody else to lead the opposition? That’s basically the worst case; there’s no path to becoming the PM after that.

5975

Never mind that there is no mechanism for it, not in the time remaining.

If Corbyn just wants to be PM is meant as a criticism, he’s got plenty of good company, so I’m not sure what it accomplishes. He’s already offered to take a caretaker role and do nothing but prevent a no-deal Brexit, then call an election afterward. The people who find that unpalatable and would prefer to burn the world down to avoid it are surely worse than he is. But by all means let’s blame him!

5976

Anyone looking at Corbyn’s history as an MP would obviously conclude: relentlessly power-hungry careerist.

Meanwhile, Ofdominic continues his streak.

5977

I think the problem is that his opponents don’t trust him to immediately step aside for an election.

If Corbyn really would do nothing as PM other then obtain a Brexit extension and call an election, then why would he object to letting someone else do the same thing?

5978

They don’t need to. If he didn’t, he could be removed in exactly the same way, via a VONC.