“Fuck Business” - Boris Johnson
Much like his “fuck the families” when talking about the victims of the 7/7 terror attack.
This is not a man who gives a shit about anything other than gaining power for himself.
Clay
7010
Elon Musk and his weirdness aside, that’s a lot of jobs to lose.
British politics are all kinds of fucked up :P
We tried so hard to ensure Labour was a credible opposition and to replace its leadership with people who were more popular than a turd in your teacup but alas we lost.
Timex
7013
Why exactly is Corbyn the leader of Labor?
I mean, it seems like he’s just a huge albatross around the party’s neck. Is there literally no one else?
Because he can’t be voted out because his people have majority in the party. You can’t mount an internal opposition when they control governance, executive, compliance functions and selection committees. Most of the key individuals aren’t Labour, but people from other parties, mostly Trotskyist, Communist, Marxist-Leninist and Maoist groups.
His support base are a cult much the same as Trump. Its more religion than politics. They will vote for him no matter what.
All pols, surveys data etc are ignored or attacked as lies and plots by Tory or Jewish controlled media.
They believe they are winning.
Timex
7015
Sounds like your party sucks.
wavey
7016
Or, Labour members quite like his socialist policy positions.
Yup, it’s lost. My membership expired at the end of the summer.
They see whatever Trump supporters see in the GOP. He’s the messiah that will deliver what they want.
Of all the bad takes in all the gin joints in the world, you had to walk into this one.
The cult of blind adoration and pure faith: “Corbyn will help us remain”
The second most powerful man in Labour:
Labour’s money tree must be like Jack’s beanstalk.
Look forward to seeing which Marxist-Leninist loon they put in charge of the firewall/monitoring.
To add to the nationalisation list with
- all private schools
- water
- gas
- electricity
- trains
- at least one bank
- empty and unused houses
- properties owned by buy to let landlords
- Royal Mail
- at least one media outlet
- steel industry (I think)
- fairly sure someone was on about coal too
- and going by angry twitter brigade, any companies owned by critics of Blessed Jeremy pbuh
Trains first if up to me, then energy. Internet is a utility I guess. The rest is nonsense. Water eventually but not a priority.
Aceris
7022
Yep, FTTC coverage is 90%. I’m not hearing anyone with FTTC complaining about it. But let’s nationalise openreach and replace that with FTTP! Because it makes a good soundbite and sounds like an investment in the future.
And the best way to sink British involvement in high tech industry is the kind of tax scheme he proposes to pay for it. These firms will not invest in the UK if the UK government is seen as hostile. The sad thing is you could certainly come up with a tax scheme that squeezed more money out of them for very little loss, but the sheer disdain Corbyn and co express at the entire industry will simply be counterproductive.
Oh and they are planning to sabotage government IT even further (if that is possible) by terminating AWS contracts if they get annoyed with Amazon.
jpinard
7023
Water, Gas, Electricity, and Trains should definitely be nationalized. Along with all petroleum extracting and refining companies. Steel and coal should live and die by the free market.
Heh. Corporates are the enemy for the hard left. As in deep seated, ideological enemies. If wanted to list every company or industry I’ve seen the rank and file talk about nationalising or banning I’d be here all day. Entire sectors to be abolished (finance/banking) or made into state concerns (agriculture). The above list comes from what I’ve seen politicians and advisors mention.
Just remember, taking UK domiciled multinats or foreign owned subsidiaries into state ownership involves confiscation of foreign owned assets, not offering market/fair value to the shareholders. Most plans involving breaking international agreements about shareholder rights and sezure of these companies hence my mention of endless litigation in international courts.
All of this is in a post Brexit UK desperate for trade agreements. Heh.
This is why they forsee the need for trading with Russia, Venezuela, Syria, Cuba, Iran, Syria etc and moving away from the West. Pariahs club together eh.
I do not understand what Labour are doing at a very basic campaign level. Why distract from NHS and floods with a big silly pledge to nationalise something that very few people seem to care to nationalise?
Aceris
7027
Because they can’t agree on their own NHS policy wrt the four day week :)
FT are reporting it’s just Openreach that they’re talking about nationalising, which I actually agree with. It’s a natural monopoly and doesn’t really make sense to be privately owned (especially by someone in direct competition with its customers). But that shouldn’t necessarily imply free broadband provision for consumers (which would be an additional expense).
For non-UK readers, Openreach is the bit of BT which owns and controls the telecoms backbone in the UK, up to the cabinet. It’s technically legally separate from BT the telco and internet provider. Other internet providers have to pay Openreach to access the backbone. They’re constantly complaining that BT is unfairly using it to impede competition.
