4 years of Corbynistas to centre left: Fuck off out of Labour you Red Tory scum
Also Corbynistas: Where has our vote gone? Damn LibDems!
I mean, 13 seats is a pretty fucking terrible result for the Lib Dems too.
magnet
7395
Labour sabotaged itself.
Couldn’t even remember to mention Brexit.
That was their actual policy.
“neutral on Brexit and pretend its not going on”. What is Labours position? Look, over there! a spider!
They barely mentioned it, other than some of the Labour bigwigs contradicting each other.
I can only hope Luciana Berger is one of those 13. That will really spit in the face of Corbyn’s Jewbaiters.
Tim_N
7399
I wonder if Corbyn’s strategy on being Brexit-neutral was a principled stance or if they had some data/analysis that going full-Remain would lose them more votes to the Tories than it would gain from the Lib Dems. Whatever the case, it failed hard and now that Corbyn has lost two elections in a row, the latter leaving the party with less seats than Ed Miliband (assuming the actual result holds to the exit poll), he should resign this evening.
Agree. It’s his job to win, and he failed.
strategy
7402
The silver lining here for Labour, is that a blowout loss is better than a narrow loss, because the UK is screwed either way, but a blowout will almost certainly force Corbyn out. Whether or not Corbyn deserves all of the villification he receives, he is a terrible drag on the Labour ticket, and replacing him will benefit them in the next election. I strongly doubt he would leaves if the loss is/had been a narrow one.
Really an amazing lack of strategy from both Labour and the LibDems - Labour clearly suffered from their decision to not campaign on Brexit, while the LibDems made a huge mistake veering completely over into the - completely unrealistic and unpopular - “we will revoke Brexit” promise. In hindsight, I suspect that their inability to cooperate on even the most basic stuff such as having a unified message on Brexit doomed them both.
I guess we can look forward to another year of posturing and BS, before the Tories cave on every red line again next December.
strategy
7403
It’s just amazing hearing Labour big-wigs arguing that the whole problem with the election has been Brexit. Like… what did they expect - that people would not think of Brexit while deciding where to place their vote? But this is why I didn’t - and still don’t - think that a GE was a good solution to the Brexit issue - at least not if you want a solution that reflects the will of the people.
Good for us in Europe, though. And without a doubt the best result SNP could have hoped for.
It’s not just Corbyn. All the people and parties that came with him are now embedded in the party structures and hierarchy. CAGE and MEND are still about. Hamas UK is still about. Press TV is still turning up to CLP meetings. The leadership are still marching side by side with Marxist Leninists.
However, any of the younger blood just don’t have the baggage the old Bennites and London hard left clique have so there just won’t be that flood of archives from 30 years of fringe backbench nuttery so the domestic policies will remain without the huge armoury gifted to the right wing media that is Corbyns past. Corbynism without his foreign policy and alliances is alot more appealing to the centre.
Miramon
7405
Well, sadly my prediction seems to be correct, though it didn’t take a lot of insight to make it. More predictions for the next few years:
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Johnson’s government falls less than one year after Brexit with some serious disasters during that year.
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Corbyn’s successor’s government falls less than one year after that because Labour can’t administer a functioning Brexit state any more than the Conservatives.
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A new populist party emerges from the shambling remains of the Tories and the Brexit party and, why not, the NF and provokes a vigorous response from the left, finally unifying it out of fears of fascism. The question is will there be a coup or martial law suspending democracy along the way…
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Meanwhile Scotland secedes to rejoin the EU and Northern Ireland ironically is incorporated into the republic with the DUP hardly even complaining about it when they see the alternative.
Hard to read this as anything other than willful disassociation from reality.
spiffy
7407
If nothing else I will grimly enjoy watching the poor marginalized downtrodden Tory voters continue to get what they deserve.
draxen
7408
If the exit poll is accurate then we’ll finally… finally uphold the 2016 referendum result. I find it ironic that Boris who is largely considered a most mercenary of politicians will be simultaneously (to many) a hero of democracy.
Yeah my mum neighbour was blaming immigrants for the waiting lists at their local hospital when i was up there the other day (a shithole Norfolk town where old people go to die). They will triple once the Tories have cut their funds to the bone and cleansed half the NHS workforce from their ethnostate.
wavey
7410
When you decide, do remember to share, I could do with some inspiration…
Bunker down and plan for hard times.
The idiocracy will be consuming everything at their usual rapacious rate and will be surprised when the basics run out. Let those ****s starve first. The only way the English will learn is through pain and suffering. You can’t trust them to make take a sensible path. Any **** who looks at Johnson and thinks he makes a good leader deserves whats coming to them.
arrendek
7412
People are so stupid. It’s a silver lining for the certainty of death. At least I’ll be rid of all these fucking idiots.
Maybe I’ll even be dead before the whole world burns. Fingers crossed.