7494

(Resubmitted, inadvertently replied to the wrong poster.)

7495

How does his withdrawal agreement resolve the Northern Ireland problem?

7496

Last time I checked the opposite was true, due to old boundaries.The average Labour seat not only has a lower vote count (due to differential turnout), but a lower population.

He’s in favour of whatever gives him more power and makes him more popular.

He’s worn an environmentalist mask on occasion before. His instinct would probably be to slap a union jack on the side of a German-made windfarm and proclaim it a triumph for British green industry.

The ordoliberal fiscal rules are only enforced on the eurozone states, as far as I’m aware. It’s not something British voters in general are really aware of.

It puts a border down the Irish sea, with some allowances that may mean that border can be minimized. If the Northern Irish decide to leave as a result, Johnson doesn’t care.

7497

Thanks

7498

Except we’re all going to get what some others deserve!

Invest and look beyond 5 years.

And get a Spanish passport.

7499

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7500

This is probably old news, I just didn’t see it in the thread. Apologies if I missed it.

It’s pretty interesting (and by interesting I mean horrifying) to watch the UK and the US collapse under the weight of their own stupidity and bigotry.

7501

What the… how did you get a photo of me?
Did you hack my webcam or something? :D

7502

The tory party has shown more awareness that it needs to change after a massive victory than Labour has after a massive defeat.

(Whether the tory party actually changes at all is a very different question of course. I’m not holding my breath)

7503

This is the Labour response:

7504

Milnes already penned a missive pointing the attack mobs at centrists/Remainers and the hard left alt media outlets like Evolve, Canary, Swarkbox etc are already blaming the defeat on Labour not being a hardcore Leave party due to sabotage by traitors. Expect a purge of all Remainers to try and retain power and 4 years of the same old shit under whoever they decide will lead them. Expect to see the word “traditional” put in front of working class from the party as a whole as the Lexiters in power try and regain their old voterbase, who hate immigrants more than they love the NHS.

7505

Reading comments from certain Labour politicians is just… horrific. Reality distortion on an epic scale.

I find it kind of horrific, having watched politics play out in the US and UK for the past few years, that FPTP electoral systems are apparently so hard to get rid off. In a sane political system, the UK would have had a moderate conservative party peel off from the Tories, and Labour would long since have split off into a Corbynite and a Moderate Labour party.

But with the system as it is, any such attempts are basically screwed before they’ve even started (and starting a new political party is hard to begin with, even when the electoral system does not work against you), so nothing essentially gets done. Awful.

7506

I’m surprised at the totality of Boris’s victory. Not only did he destroy the opposition but he’s also obliterated internal party opposition. Every single Tory rebel lost their seat last night. Every single one.

7507

Trump has full support of Republicans. You can look at the US to see why that’s not a good thing.

“All the moderates and dissenting voices have been purged, weeeee!”

7508

Dont forget all the fascist tampering with rule of law in their manifesto linked above.

7509

I was amazed by how many rebels there were. Boris needed an election anyway. They basically let him fire them to be replaced by loyalists, giving him credibility with leave voters for free. Ultimately they thought they were indispensible symbols of moderate toryism, whereas moderate tory voters largely reacted “meh” to their firing.

7510

Good luck with everything, British readers. I honestly don’t know what the hell you’re collectively thinking, but good luck. I guarantee you Boris and the Tories are not going to take you back to the Swinging Sixties.

7511

It seems there is the usual problems with FPTP.

Broadly the left parties, Labour, Lib Dem, SNP etc had more votes. Labour and Lib Dem combined had a slight edge in vote totals. There was no comparable secondary right wing party.

However the net result is Cons, with only 43% of the vote have 56% of seats at 363. The Labour and Lib Dems, with slightly more votes, get 203 and 11.

7512
7513

This is from Triggernometry - that I posted a while back - and I still maintain is not a right-wing channel but is actually a fairly unbiased collection of long play political interviews (and well worth checking out if you have an interest in politics).

This clip was right on the money. (from June 2019)