Brexit, aka, the UK Becomes a Clown Car of the Highest Order

A list crowdsourced by /r/ukpolitics of reasons why people voted Brexit.

1.“To reduce the length of the political food chain and bring democracy back within clearly defined borders of control.” (James Jackson, Medium)

  1. “Because of all the EU laws that we have no say in.” “Name one.” “There’s loads. Too many to list.” “Name one.” “…” (Caller to LBC radio station)

  2. “As a protest vote.”

  3. “Because I want it to be a close result.”

  4. “It [Sunderland] already is [a giant jobcentre]. That’s why I voted Leave, to put everyone else in the shit like us.” (Twitter)

  5. “To stick it to the toffs.”

  6. “To give Cameron a bloody nose.” (Express website)

  7. “To give Cameron a better negotiating position.”

  8. “Because the EU closed the coalmines.”

  9. “Because I thought we had been in long enough.”

  10. “Because I had the hump.”

  11. “Because now our lads will get out of prison, ‘cos there will be jobs for them.”

  12. “The main reason I voted out was because the EU parliament aren’t elected representatives. The second is, they pass laws that affect us, but we aren’t given a say. Third, we need to sort our own house out” (Joanne, Facebook, giving exactly the same — factually wrong — reason in three different ways)

  13. “Because I felt uncomfortable when a group of brown people got on the bus the other day.” (Family member)

  14. “Because the EU made them change Marathons to Snickers.” [That decision was taken by Mars, not the EU.]

  15. “Because they banned our bendy bananas.” (Express website) [The EU introduced a law stipulating that bananas should be given different classifications depending on their curvature. No fruit was ever banned, just classified differently.]

  16. “Because fishermen now won’t have to throw fish back in the water and Muslim women will no longer be told by their husbands not to wear make-up.” (Caller to LBC) [The exact effect of the UK’s withdrawal from the EU will have on fishing waters and quotas must wait until nenotiations are complete, but we will still need agreements with out neighbours, and limits to prevent overfishing, which our neighbours will probably wish to remain broadly the same.]

  17. “Because I’ve lived here all my life and when I was growing up, that street over there was filled with shops.” (TV documentary)

  18. “To stop the Muslims immigrating here.” [Migration is unrestricted within the EU. But individual nations are responsible for setting their own limits on immigration from non-EU countries, such as those where the majority of citizens are Muslims. Leaving the EU will have no direct effect on the number of Muslims coming to the UK.]

  19. “Because I want our old lightbulbs back!” [The EU has placed restrictions on the sale of old-style incandescent light bulbs in a bid to reduce energy wastage and slow global warming.]

  20. “Because vaccines should not be mandatory.” [The EU has never passed any law making vaccination mandatory, even though vaccination is widely regarded as being a pretty good idea. Some European countries have done so of their own volition.]

  21. “Because the Queen said.” (Pro-Brexit Facebook group)

  22. “Because we should not be signing up to TTIP.” [TTIP is a trade deal between EU and America, which the EU has just put on hold. After the UK leaves the EU, most commentators believe it will sign up to a similar deal with the US, probably with fewer checks and balances.]

  23. “Because we are like Germany, and Germany isn’t in the EU.” [Germany was a founding member of the EU.]

  24. “Because the country is full.”

  25. “To annoy my wife.”

  26. “It will be an adventure!”

  27. “Because the value of the euro is going to go down.” [Even if it were true, this would not have a marked effect on the UK’s economy. Since the vote, sterling is down 18% against the dollar and 15% against the euro.]

  28. “So that I can get cheap photovoltaic panels from China.”

  29. “Because otherwise, 7 million Turks will come over here.” (Caller to LBC radio station) [Turkey would never have been able to join the EU so long as Britain used its veto.]

  30. “Because I am fed up with being ruled by unelected bureaucrats.” [The EU parliament is directly elected in regular European elections. The European commission —essentially the union’s civil service — recruits its own members.]

  31. “Because I didn’t want my sons to have to join a European army.” [The EU would never have formed an army so long as Britain exercised its veto. Even if it did, conscription would be a political and practical impossibility.]

  32. “Because there’s too many Pakistan [sic] people in Glasgow.” [I repeat: EU membership has no bearing on immigration from outside the EU.]

  33. “Because it takes more than 5 litres of water to flush my shit away.”

  34. “Because EU taxes are making our petrol more expensive than everywhere else in Europe.” [No, those would be taxes imposed by the UK’s government. The EU plays no part in setting national tax rates.]

  35. “To send them women in the headscarves back home. One of them stole my mother’s purse.”

  36. “Because I don’t like what the EU is doing to Africa.”

  37. “Because I’m scared of black people. They’re so physical.” (Mother-in-law of member of Facebook group) [The mechanism by which leaving the EU will rid the UK of black people is unclear.]

  38. “I don’t want to send money to Greece. I don’t care about Greece.”

  39. “Because the EU does nothing for us.” [Estimates of the value of EU membership to the UK vary from £31bn to £92bn per year.]

  40. “Because the EU has devoted 26,911 words to the regulation of cabbages.” [Seems quite a minor thing to sacrifice 10% of your pay packet for, but in any case, it’s bollocks. There are at present zero words in EU legislation specifically governing the production or sale of cabbages.]

  41. “Because our prisons are full of Polish rapists.” [As of March 2016, there were 965 Polish nationals in British prisons. That’s out of a total Polish population of just over 800,000 — so 0.12% of all Poles here are convicted criminals. The total number of prisoners is around 95,000; about 0.14% of the population as a whole. I can’t find any figures broken down into both ethnicity and crime.]

  42. “Because the roads in Oxfordshire are full of potholes.” [Technically, such matters fall within the local council’s purview.]

  43. “Because the EU is anti-semitic.”

  44. “So that we can go back to the way Britain was in the 50s.”

  45. “Because they sold off the water, gas and electricity.” [Once again, that would be the work of the UK government, not the EU.]

  46. “Because I couldn’t decide, and my boyfriend voted Remain.”

  47. “Because schools are no longer allowed to hold nativity plays in case they offend Muslims.” [Utter crap.]

  48. “Because the EU spent £13m on art last year."

  49. “Because they never vote for us in Eurovision.”

  50. “Because if we stop all the immigrants using the NHS, it will work properly again.”

  51. “So we don’t have to queue at the doctor’s.” [There is no clear consensus on the impact of immigration on the health service. Undoubtedly, more people in a country means more people to treat. But it is widely agreed that migrants to the UK are on average younger and healthier than the local population, that inward migration is good for the economy, which gives us more money to spend on the NHS, and that without migrant workers — 24% of doctors and 12% of nurses were not born in the UK — the health service would collapse. Besides, the ageing resident population is by far the biggest strain on health services.]

  52. “Because I want a more powerful hoover.” (via Facebook group)

  53. “Because the EU is going to ban toasters, and I love toast.” (BBC interviewee) [The EU has never threatened to ban toasters. It is, however, considering a limit on the amount of energy that household appliances can use, in a bid to reduce the effect on the environment.]

  54. “So we can have our electrical sockets low down by the skirting rather than have to put them little higher up the wall.”

  55. “Because they are building houses for Filipinos and it’s blocking the view from my kitchen window.”

  56. “Because I don’t understand politics. This is what my friends suggested.”

  57. “Because there’s too much traffic in Sittingbourne.”

  58. ”Because they tell me I need scaffolding to clean my guttering.” [Really not sure where this information came from.]

  59. “Because I fancied a change.” (Caller to Radio 4 programme)

  60. “My uncle voted Leave because his sister told him to.”

  61. “Because the European Parliament building is the same shape as the Tower of Babel, which is anti-Christ.” (Facebook group’s family member)

  62. “So all the fucking Chinks will leave.”

  63. “Because the ensuing recession is going to bring house prices down, and I can’t afford to buy a house.”

  64. “Because I want to buy sweets in ounces, not grammes.” [The UK adopted the metric system before entering the then European Economic Community. In any case, there’s nothing stopping shops selling things in imperial measures as well as metric.]

  65. “Because they don’t pay for NHS prescriptions in Wales and Scotland, and that’s not fair.” (Manchester resident, in TV interview) [Again, nothing to do with the EU.]

  66. “So that I don’t have to pay the bedroom tax.” [The bedroom tax was imposed not by the EU, but by … oh, can’t you guess by now?]

  67. “Because I’m fed up of the French burning our lamb.” (Frank, Twitter)

  68. “Because I want to use my teabag twice and the EU won’t let me.” (Aunt of friend of commenter) [This was another falsehood peddled by Boris Johnson.]

Obviously not to be taken too seriously, I think the big take is The Idiocracy Is Now as well as the racism. if you put important decisions about incredibly complex things to ill-informed idiots who will chose on a whim, you get what you deserve.

#63 was the only intelligent person in the bunch.

53. “Because the EU is going to ban toasters, and I love toast.” (BBC interviewee) [The EU has never threatened to ban toasters. It is, however, considering a limit on the amount of energy that household appliances can use, in a bid to reduce the effect on the environment.]

To be fair 53, illustrates the level of Pro Brexit propaganda out there. Here are a couple of stories about Toast they were likely thinking of.

The latter (express) you should glance at the linked articles from recently if you can stand it. Its eye opening to see just how extreme the still widely read right wing press is in the UK.

This year the EU did indeed put in legislation to help keep people alive. Why you would want to get cancer is somewhat beyond me.

The most expensive petrol I’ve ever seen was on Holland.

I thought that 38 was particularly interesting in that in a few months, UK is going to BE Greece.

(yes, I know that is hyperbolic)

Anna Soubry, a former defence minister who is calling for another Brexit referendum, said that the incident was “seriously worrying”.

Yes, freedom is very worrying.

In Britain, it kind of is… They don’t have the same kind of freedom of speech laws.

Very true. The flip side of that is the right to not be slandered is much stronger than in the USA.

Context

The same people are the ones linked up thread shouting that brown policemen aren’t British and that Soubry, Burley and Foster should be anally raped with a flag pole

but their freedom to abuse is more important than their victims right not to be abused? Fuck that. Free speech fundamentalism can fuck off back the US political cesspit.

Errr no.

Freedom to speak, like you are exercising in this post, is far more valuable than freedom to not have my feelings hurt.

Enforcing protections to protects people’s feelings is a slippery and stupid slope.

Now, were those threats legitimate --> police action.

Was she actually under threat? I’ve seen that video and as far as I can tell, not at all.

And yeah, as a politician, expect a lot of shit to be slung your way. and you know what, considering how this brexit debacle is panning out, politicians get absolutely no sympathy from me, remainer or brexiteer.

Being called a Nazi is not abuse.

Being called a nigger is, because it comes with a huge deal of verifiable history of abuse. I also think black people should flat out stop using that word too. I’m mixed race (or BAME apparently) and I would never use it.

There’s a distinction, admittedly quite a thin and fluid one.

@Ginger_Yellow your context doesn’t much help. Are you saying people chanting on the streets are de facto likely murderers, because they were calling an MP a Nazi (even though the murderer was right wing/nazi?)

Or are you saying critique of a politician means you are a likely murderer?

Clarify please because it has confused me.

It’s not the being called a Nazi. It’s the aggressive harrassment in person. And I’m not even saying anything should happen to the people doing it. Just that maybe the police should have considered doing something other than just standing there, given a climate in which an MP has already been murdered and anyone even mildly standing in the way of Brexit is routinely called an enemy of the people or worse.

Ok, that makes more sense.

Thankyou for that.

It’s a delicate situation because if they had done “something,” they’d have been called out for it.

I don’t know how feasible it would be, but maybe a police escort for MPs in the vicinity of Westminster?

Interesting article countering any arguments that it was only the Farage/Banks leave.eu campaign, not the “official” Johnson/davis/Gove etc Vote Leave campaign running a racist and xenophobic campaign.

The same Brexiter mentioned above is also advocating ethnically cleansing the UK of Muslims

and an apt quote for the rest of the Brexiters

As we say in Germany, if there’s a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you have a table with 11 Nazis.

That guy is such a loser. He oozes lame and pathetic like no other. So how is it media doesn’t keep harping on the fact these alt-right types can’t make it in a real society, so they need to try and hurt others to build themselves up?

He’s funded by the US, Bannons people, American Nazis. Who do you think are paying him to stand outside Westminster every day? There’s a whole range of US right wing billionaires ready to move in and clean up after Brexit fucks us. The Kochs fund the Spiked website that dominates alt right/far right/brexiter/kipper socmedia and them and others are hovering like the vulture capitalists they are. Bannon was also behind a few attempts at dogwhistling by Johnson a few months back.

All of this facilitated knowingly by the British Brexiters.

Just to reiterate, I’m a Remainer through and through, but honestly, the Guardian is a piling steam of rubbish.

I wouldn’t put much credence in what they write.

I tend to go from Guardian to BBC to Independent/The Times, to get differing perspectives on the same thing.

By the way, the Guardian isn’t unique in having a lot of bullshit, most (ALL?) media does.

Sift through 3 sources of bullshit and you arrive at a fairly balanced conclusion.

I’m oversimplifying but it’s basically:

Guardian - loonie lefties living in lala land
BBC - somewhere in the middle
Independent - raving right rabid rong’uns

So please tell me your thought processes on why an article based on video evidence should be discounted.

I take all news this way. Bias is on top of data, read through the bias and extract the data and sources. Especially when you see the same story across the media spectrum.

The UK is a complete basket case right now, let alone post no-deal chaos where we’ll all be eating woody swedes*. A Ministry of Hunger. FFS.

*rutabaga