Meanwhile, the Telegraph leads with:
Britain threatens to impose VAT and customs duties on EU imports if there is no Brexit deal
Do these idiots not think that the EU won’t do the same to British goods coming to the continent? Methinks UK businesses and industries need the EU more than the EU’s needs the UK.
It’s not much of a threat. It’s just what would happen by virtue of not being in a trade agreement. The EU is perfectly aware of this, and would of course be imposing VAT and customs duties on UK imports just as it does for other third countries…
Bet you a dollar it was the Russians.
Oh, we already know that
You think if they show enough Russian interference they might hold another vote?
Nope. Brexiters will remain Brexiters until they die.
I think Yanis Varoufakis is one of the smartest men in Europe RE: economic politics.
Here’s a soundbite of a recent interview discussing Brexit Negotiations.
I have always found it strange that people take for granted that the EU will act in its economic above its political interests (which, frankly, dovetail into its long term economic interests - so it’s not entirely economically illiterate, either).
But I find it especially strange when those same people have just engaged in a process that will cripple Britain’s economic prospects purely for political reasons.
Who takes it for granted that the EU will act like homo economicus? I think only very optimistic Brexiteers, or people completely unaware of how past EU issues got resolved.
There is another sort?
No, they want to cripple us to keep all the “wogs and pakis” out. They are prepared to fucking starve in order to never see another dark face. This is what this is and was always about, they are a bunch of racists.
And others believed some patriotic nonsense about ‘sovereignty’ stirred up by the medias.
But that’s kinda what I meant by ‘political’.
Are we talking about the EU or the UK government?
Yes, exactly.
After the referendum I got sick of arguing wih people on Facebook, so I quit Facebook.
I also moved countries and began a new life.
So I’m weirdly thankful for the referendum turning out against what I wanted, while I watch in exasperation as the drama unfolds.
Now I need to find some willingredients ish woman and marry her to fast track nationality.
Or a man. That’s totally normal here.
Davis just told the select committee that parliament may not get to vote on the deal until after March 2019. Perhaps MPs will now realise how much of a joke that vote is. If you wanted a say on the final deal, the time was before the article 50 vote.
But Tory MPs don’t care, because they can use any old vote as a leadership conflict vehicle, and that’s really what Brexit was for their party. If they cared they wouldn’t have supported Brexit in the first place. It’s so plainly imbecilic and destructive, that every last pol who supports it, Conservative or Labour, is clearly saying “I don’t care about the country or the common good, I only care about political power.”
And not to favor the Lib Dem remainers, too much, either, because I’m pretty sure if Labour had come out strongly pro-Europe, they’d switch to the other side without a second thought just to distinguish themselves.
Oh, yeah, I’m not really thinking about the Tories, except maybe the likes of Soubry who held their noses and voted with the government on Article 50 (and the repeal bill first reading for that matter) despite being vocally Remain. I’m thinking of all the Labour MPs who justified their article 50 vote on the basis that parliament would have the final say on any deal. Including Corbyn.
Davis also said Chezozlavaki had no government and the last minute negotiations would be fun. He may have been drunk. Either way, he’s climbing down from the vote thing somewhat.
I really don’t think so. The membership is hugely pro-remain, even before this farce, and the party position has been very consistently pro-single market and EU.