Civilian Flight Sim thread

Ohhhh lookit, a new helicopter sim!

But it’s VR ONLY. Fuck.

Even when I upgrade, I might just avoid VR out of spite.

Luckily it looks cheap and nasty! I get the feeling the ‘sim’ part of this will be just an afterthought.

@BrianRubin, can’t you write off upgrading your PC and getting VR as a business expense, for Space Game Junkie?

Oh wow I’m just now seeing this somehow but I SERIOUSLY want this Bush Pilot game! :D

Oh man, I wish.

There’s some intense internet drama going down right now over FSLabs’ A320. Someone on reddit points out it comes with malware that steals your passwords from Chrome. Instead of doing the smart thing and getting a lawyer or going into hiding, the dev explains that it’s okay because they only use it against pirates.

If such a specific serial number is used by a pirate (a person who has illegally obtained our software) and the installer verifies this against the pirate serial numbers stored in our server database, it takes specific measures to alert us. “Test.exe” is part of the DRM and is only targeted against specific pirate copies of copyrighted software obtained illegally.

The game’s own forum with the developers’ response:

Some serious Stockholm syndrome going on in there as well.

Of course if I spent $140 for an airplane DLC I’d probably get Stockholm syndrome too.

I’m just shocked that Chrome passwords are still easily exposed. Does this only work on older versions? I could swear Google added better security at some point.

Yet another reason to use a standalone password manager.

Yeah but if you spent the $140, then you wouldn’t have this extraction tool on your system… ;)

Seems they’ve now apologised and removed the offending ‘DRM’ method.

Looks like Flight Sim World is being dropped.

TL;DR version: Dovetail sees the open, obvious path to harmonize with the mod community that keeps civvie sims alive; decides to take shitty kill-the-golden-goose path instead. Mod community not impressed, at all. FSW dies.

That whole 30% to Steam, 30% to Dovetail was extremely stupid. Sounds like they had a lot of other problems as well.

So Deadstick has a Steam page now.

Excellent, thank you!


Deadstick is going to be at the Flight Sim Expo in Las Vegas this weekend, with demos open to attendees. So if you’re interested and around there, might be a fun trip. Otherwise, I’m sure we’ll get some impressions.

There is a Flight Sim Expo? Why have I never gone to this?

I was saying the same thing to the flight simmer in the office next to me today. Maybe a 2019 trip.

I tried out Aerofly FS 2 recently, partly based on the good opinions it received here. I am a complete beginner when it comes to flight sims (other than dabbling with FSX ages ago), so I am unable to compare it with the others on the market.

The UI looks like it comes straight from a mobile game, with big buttons taking up half the screen which is useful if you’re using your thumb to press them but not a mouse. I really liked how you could browse a map to select where you want to start and end from. It’s a shame you can’t fly anywhere in the world (at least with decent scenery). The selection of aircraft looked pretty good and joystick calibration was pretty easy.

The vaunted graphics were a bit of a mixed bag. At 4k rez the high-res terrain maps occasionally look spectacular. Close to the ground or anywhere near civilization and the veil is lifted. There aren’t any moving parts here, just your glossy plane flying over terrain mesh. With the water being just a photograph it also looks really strange. The sides of cliffs often look really terrible.

Can’t comment on the flight model or how good VR is (apparently it’s great!), but it all seemed a little too empty and simple. Perhaps that’s why flight sim vets consistently recommended it to those new to the genre, something easy to get into, but I don’t think that’s true as there really isn’t anything to do in the game other than look at the scenery. I never found the act of flying to be difficult or require concentration in the game.

So I refunded it after 1.5 hours. I tried the demo for X-plane 11 and even though it’s less beginner friendly I also think it’s more appealing as there is evidently more depth and breadth on offer. Ideally, though, I think I need more game systems to really engross me. Can’t wait for Deadstick as that might be the one!

I never really got on with Aerofly either (in VR) and refunded it soon after purchase. For much the same reasons as you list.

That’s because it does. It’s a port from a mobile game. :)