Civilization V

Bill_Dungsroman · 2010-09-21T13:50:58.000Z

Octonoo:

Good review, but this quote mystifies me:

…this Civilization feel like new wine poured into an old wineskin.

Shouldn’t it be the other way around?

The UI, art, and presentation seem very new and innovative.

Man it’s great that you’re still posting these quality insights

MythicalMino · 2010-09-21T13:59:46.000Z

bought my copy at Gamestop…traded in some console games and didn’t have to pay anything.

Then, I thought, maybe I could “upgrade” to the digital deluxe…add to cart…but the option to purchase for myself is gone, as steam tells me that I already purchased it (??)

Odd, as even if I could not upgrade to the deluxe, I cannot even buy it now, since Civ 5 is set to my account…

Pod · 2010-09-21T13:59:57.000Z

Omniscia:

You can’t tantalize us with an asterisk and then not follow up on it!

I think I wrote something about SMAC and later deleted it.

This game doesn’t unlock in the UK for another two days. I’m kind of glad I didn’t preorder though – the AI sounds terrible. Shonky AI was what put me off Civ 3 so much. Speaking of Civ 3 AI – have any of you noticed the AI ‘cheating’? Or have they remained almost entirely pure like the Civ 4 AIs were?

Pod · 2010-09-21T14:01:05.000Z

Octonoo:

Good review, but this quote mystifies me:

…this Civilization feel like new wine poured into an old wineskin.

Shouldn’t it be the other way around?

The UI, art, and presentation seem very new and innovative.

The wineskin imparts a flavour on the beverage. This flavour would be the “civilization” flavour that is constant in all games. But this is NEW WINE! It has hexes, etc.

Octonoo · 2010-09-21T14:06:07.000Z

Bill Dungsroman:

Man it’s great that you’re still posting these quality insights

Gotta throw a bone to my “fan club” every now and then…

Moving on…

I don’t know if anyone bothered to do the tutorial, but it was very well done.

It felt like doing a series of “mini-quests.”

I wonder if the tutorial was made with the mod tools?

If so, there are some very interesting possibilities for “RPG-type” mods.

John_Reynolds · 2010-09-21T14:06:52.000Z

Woolen Horde:

Noticed just how loud the fans are going in my PC. It’s like I’m playing Crysis. Yowsa, this game is a beast.

I was wondering how demanding it would be. The screenshots certainly look good.

Octonoo · 2010-09-21T14:07:20.000Z

Pod:

The wineskin imparts a flavour on the beverage. This flavour would be the “civilization” flavour that is constant in all games. But this is NEW WINE! It has hexes, etc.

Thanks!

Now the quote makes perfect sense.

DeathMonkey · 2010-09-21T14:11:57.000Z

Octonoo:

I wonder if the tutorial was made with the mod tools?

Yes it was.

-Scott-

billt721 · 2010-09-21T14:21:40.000Z

Dave Markell:

Why are the wonderful editing tools released with Civ4 apparently absent from Civ5?

If you’re referring to the Civ IV SDK, there was a delay between the launch of Civ IV and the release of the SDK, which is what they said they were doing again.

Kaigen · 2010-09-21T14:22:04.000Z

John Reynolds:

I was wondering how demanding it would be. The screenshots certainly look good.

Well, it must be pretty scalable. My only PC these days is my Asus 1201n, which is certainly not a powerhouse. It still looks decent on mid to lower settings (although I’m sure it would look amazing on high settings) and I could run it a-ok.

Mike_Pugliese · 2010-09-21T14:23:00.000Z

Is there a reason the demo’s tutorial option is grayed out? Other than to completely alienate Civ newbies, I mean.

Dan_Theman · 2010-09-21T14:23:59.000Z

… and here I am, sitting at work while my new 460 GTX is collecting dust at home.

d@MM!%

Clay · 2010-09-21T14:27:08.000Z

I’m about 4 hours into a game that’s at ~1600 AD now. The beginning definitely was different than Civ 4, but I feel that the game has begun to swing back around to familiar Civ territory now. Maybe that will change. The city states are a great addition – and I mostly ignore their calls for help. They are very important in the game that I’m playing for resource access, though. I have to keep several of them as allies just to have access to the iron that I need to build my military.

The leader animations are nice – far better than previous ones, in my opinion. The Aztec one is pretty cool, what with the fire, etc.

Anyhow, I’m taking a short break and then will dive back in. I’ve nearly conquered the continent that I started on. Managing a large civ definitely is more difficult than a small one. I’m a bit bogged down by micromanagement at the moment, but that may change when I finish taking the continent and start waging overseas wars.

Jason_Cross · 2010-09-21T14:30:23.000Z

So uh…where’s my option to skip the intro cinematic?

It’s nice, but I don’t want to see it every time. And there’s this weird like 10-second delay in ESCaping past it. :(

Douglas_on_QTT · 2010-09-21T14:32:05.000Z

On this very same page. :)

Alan_Dunkin · 2010-09-21T14:32:56.000Z

Yeah the delay-in-skipping is really weird.

— Alan

zombo77 · 2010-09-21T14:35:14.000Z

I just wish there was an option to make the interface and text bigger, I had to crank down the resolution quite a bit to make it more readable.

John_Reynolds · 2010-09-21T14:36:00.000Z

Dan_Theman:

… and here I am, sitting at work while my new 460 GTX is collecting dust at home.

d@MM!%

Mine arrives tomorrow. Though I’m at home, it’s 5:53pm, and no Civ5 yet, UPS is taking its sweet time getting it here via Amazon’s release-day delivery.

Hoping that 460 lets me max the game out and run it at 25x16. If not, there’ll be a 2nd 460 in my near future.

Sarkus · 2010-09-21T14:38:32.000Z

Pod:

This game doesn’t unlock in the UK for another two days. I’m kind of glad I didn’t preorder though – the AI sounds terrible. Shonky AI was what put me off Civ 3 so much. Speaking of Civ 3 AI – have any of you noticed the AI ‘cheating’? Or have they remained almost entirely pure like the Civ 4 AIs were?

Whatever you have to tell yourself to justify not buying it! ;-) Honestly, there’s a difference between the AI criticisms and “the AI sounds terrible.” This isn’t Elemental at launch bad AI from what I’ve seen so far.

I do wonder what difficulty level Troy and Tom played on, just from the standpoint of trying to figure out how the “scaling AI” thing intermixes with the AI advantages at higher levels. It’d be nice if the best AI was at the mid difficulty level, for example, with the advantages added after.

In terms of performance, the settings defaulted pretty low but I jacked everything to high to see what would happen. So far so good on a just below recommended PC at 1920x1080 resolution.

Jason_Cross · 2010-09-21T14:40:00.000Z

Douglas on QTT:

On this very same page. :)

I’m having a real problem reading threads today. :(