College students becoming narcissists

NEW YORK (AP) – Today’s college students are more narcissistic and self-centered than their predecessors, according to a comprehensive new study by five psychologists who worry that the trend could be harmful to personal relationships and American society.

“We need to stop endlessly repeating ‘You’re special’ and having children repeat that back,” said the study’s lead author, Professor Jean Twenge of San Diego State University. “Kids are self-centered enough already.”

Which is a great line and has the advantage of being true. And sort of begs to have Fight Club quoted:

“You are not special. You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You’re the same decaying organic matter as everything else.”

Anyway, I have no idea if any of this is true or not, but I thought this quote from the article was interesting, and I wonder how much damage the “self-esteem” movement is doing to kids:


At least they aren’t nihilists! They cares about naah-theeng!

I think this sort of thing is offensive to kids like my son who really are better than everyone else.

I look forward to the day when this statement comes back to haunt you.

But then I’m fueled solely by bitterness and schadenfreude. Oh, and brownies.

Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, at least it’s an ethos.

Clearly Facebook is to blame.

I blame the continuous attacks on good old-fashioned liberal values in our schools.


Really, I do.

Its not only things like “You are a special snow-flake” being told to you as a child. Its also the constant bombardment of Friends, Britney Spears and a society where nothing threatens your existence.

College kids should be forced to spend a week in Baghdad. Emo’s should have to spend one year there.

Swap out “I Love Lucy and Elvis” for “Friends and Britney Spears” and you could say the exact same thing about my parents. I realize everyone who attended university during the late 60s must forever find ways to talk about how awesome it was to stand up to the man, and torch the student union, but that generation wasn’t exactly typical.

I don’t support narcissism, so if it’s true that it’s on the rise, that’s a bad thing. But I have trouble taking yet another “These kids today are going to hell, what with their Britney Spears, and their sock-hops!” thread seriously.

I look at internet message boards–I won’t name any names–and I think, just college students? But overall, I think it’s probably true.

The more I think about the whole concept of this story the stupider it becomes.

It’s another in one of a million bullshit social research stories about “narcissists”.

The irony is if we live in a future where we’re all narcissists we won’t give a fuck anyway.

Very true. You could indicate the Beetles as well, etc…so I understand what you are saying.

I’d really like to believe that they aren’t man (kids going to hell). I know this shit has always existed, as you pointed out…but it is still there and a reality for me.

This, “They said the same thing for the last generation,” response is getting to be too pat an answer.

Cultures do rise and decline. Nations get fat and happy, get lazy, and fade to the next big power. It is not necessarily happening in this particular case, but that also does not mean that intergenerational differences and failings can always be explained away by saying its nothing, just crotchety old people complaining again.

College kids today are incredibly full of themselves. I don’t know how it used to be or whatever, but all I know is that college kids are self-centered and have enormously high opinions of themselves as a rule. In college there’s this sort of culture of delusions of grandeur, about going on to make tons of money as a lawyer or doctor or captain of Wall Street. Then they get out of college with tons of debt and realize they are now a bottom feeder lapdog in the machine, and with years of hard work ahead of them to become half as successful as they envisioned they would be. That snaps them into reality and they will undoubtedly go on to lead normal, regular lives. I speak from experience.

And you may find yourself living in a shotgun shack
And you may find yourself in another part of the world
And you may find yourself behind the wheel of a large automobile
And you may find yourself in a beautiful house, with a beautiful
And you may ask yourself-well…how did I get here?

Same as it ever was…

Ah, the Beetles were just ripoffs of the Monkeys and The Birds.

Let the water hold me down.

I was going to quote Ecclesiastes, but I think I like yours better.

OK, I let it go once, but Bill, you should know better.

The Beatles.

I hope this turns out to be a rewarding line of discussion!