It’s amazing how much I’ve suddenly become aware of every piece of even slight negative feedback my body gives me, and I’m sure that’s something that’s fairly universal out there right now for most of us.
And Spain, the whole of it, enters full lockdown…
Since we switched to WFH, I expect I won’t be leaving home for a couple months except for chores and buying stuff.
Well, I expect Portugal to follow suit then, maybe not in the next few days, but once people start dying… :(
draxen
3698
Likewise - my household enacted self-isolation measures today too. No leaving the house for the duration. Bare minimum of deliveries only that I’ll sanitize at the door. Good luck, stay safe :)
rei
3699
I don’t think the Tokyo Olympics are going to happen this year.
I ride a commuter train every day, and this week I could sense everyone reacting to every cough and sneeze. On one ride I felt the need to cough (purely allergies) and fought bitterly, and successfully, to suppress the cough. The effort literally brought tears to my eyes, but damn it I won that battle. I DID NOT COUGH.
KevinC
3703
Yikes. From “not taking things seriously” to country wide lockdown in what… 4-5 days?
How are things on the ground there for you?
Last night at 2am my wife woke us both up by sneezing directly into my face. I reviewed our marriage vows and believe she’s in the clear.
Reminds me of a joke I heard the other day.
Why is everyone hoarding toilet paper? Because every time someone sneezes, 50 people crap their pants.
Tman
3706
If the lines at grocery stores and Costco are any indication I’d say they are not reducing contacts.
I was 50-50 until this morning. I am in the category of it would floor me like the bad flu, but it’s not going to kill me or make me a zombie. I figure any of us leaving the house at this point know all the risks and are rolling the same dice.
But, I didn’t need to go up there, so staying home is prudent.
I did go to our local coffee/sandwich house for some takeout and the place was packed.
I never said they weren’t taking things seriously. I personally feel that’s easy criticism and that things did move at a good pace. the problem was that there was a huge spike of cases that shifted the growth curve last Monday and that basically meant every decision from there on was a couple of days late (which given exponential growth it’s a problem, yes). With last Sunday’s data things were on track for us to be one of the countries with earlier extensive measures given the infection ratio and rate at the time (if you rewind the curve two days, the decision to lockdown would have been made at 3k infections), certainly much faster than Italy (we are still far ahead of the curve with respect to Italy in terms of measures according to infection rates, even with the accelerated pace).
As for things on the ground, it’s fine. I worry about not young members of my family, although most of them are in reasonably good health, so I’m hopeful. It’s basically just going to be boring and productivity at the studio will take a hit due to WFH (which is not yet mandated by law but we are doing anyway).
I’m very curious as to Italy’s numbers today, to see if they are managing to slow the growth. We are going to follow that trajectory, hopefully with a lower peak. that a lot of our cases are in Madrid is both a curse and a blessing, since a t least there are a lot of resources in the region already.
KevinC
3709
I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to misattribute that to you. I thought I remember reading complaints about that this week from one of our Spanish posters and mistakenly thought it was you. Maybe it was all just a fever dream on my part, for that matter. :)
Oh certainly there are a lot of people here in Spain criticizing the government’s actions. But I come from a family of doctors (my parents), so I get a lot of opinions from professionals, and afaik nobody is really thinking response has been inappropriate, only that we were caught off guard.
KevinC
3711
The reason I commented on it is the US at the federal level has not been treating the very seriously, with the President and Republicans handwaving it away, insisting it was contained, and we still don’t have proper testing. When I looked at this a while back, I figured in a ballpark way we could possibly be where Italy was when they they started locking things down by next weekend. So given we’re a bit behind Spain in terms of spread, I was trying to work through what things might look like here by this time next week.
Anyway, thanks for the info. :)
SlyFrog
3712
Hah. Both me and my significant other are sitting here saying we both feel stuffy. This is after my son came home from college last night, where they just had their first confirmed case.
Interestingly, my response is, “OMG is this the beginning,” while her response is, “The house is stuffy, the windows have been closed a long time and the dog is shedding.”
Understood.
One caveat regarding the US (and yes the lack of proper testing is worrisome because you lose visibility of the situation). You don’t want to look at number of cases, but cases per million population. The US still has time to react, even if you multiply the numbers by 10 (which would be end of next week, I think).
I particularly enjoyed the bit where one guy claims a 30-fold markup is ‘fair’ because it costs him to ship, plus all the gas he used driving all over several states buying it all. He is providing a service to the folks who are no longer able to buy hand sanitizer for $2 at the store. Kinda neglecting that he is the very reason they cannot do so.