dtolman
3898
There was a mass shooting less than 3 weeks ago (Molson plant)… and one in Cleveland a week ago (biker gangs… sorry - Motorcycle Clubs - 1 dead, 17 wounded).
A lot is getting lost in the COVID coverage. We assassinated another Iranian official, for example. Don’t worry about it, we’re still using guns on each other in anger at a horrifying rate.
I hadn’t heard about the Cleveland one certainly.
JD
3900
Or after mass shootings. Or after… uh… now.
That cousin of mine who I mentioned (recently traveled to Madrid and Morocco, now home in Westchester, NY) is sequestered in her bedroom with all the symptoms. She got sick on Tuesday night right after she got home. Her husband is using masks and gloves to bring her food and water and medicine. Their two daughters are in the house as well. He said so far her symptoms are mild and stable. As I understand it, we have a pretty long wait to know whether or not she’s one of the lucky ones who get better. Perhaps 1-2 weeks?
I asked him if she’d tried to get tested and he replied, “She has checked to see and it is very iffy, they won’t tell you when etc and don’t have enough tests. That said we are partly of opinion not to test as then you get stuck in this weird govt quarantine vortex we have heard from friends and is very bad. Considering that they don’t have any better care to offer than going to the ER if things get dicey seems a bad choice.”
The way he was handling this sounded like the best possible approach to this scary scenario. But that Maddow interview Strollen posted made me question even this kind of family quarantine. His description made it sound like their attempts to do this in China was ineffective.
The reason I ask is because I’m trying to figure out what exactly I should be preparing to do if I or my wife get COVID-19 symptoms. Has anyone thought this through?
Menzo
3903
Hey now, it’s not cool to post those sorts of images. It’s only going to get people riled up. Now’s not the time to point fingers, it’s the time for unity.
(deep sarcasm intended)
The pictures coming out of O’Hare, DFW, and other airports to get through customs is insane. It’s 6+ hour wait for bags and 2-3 hour wait then to get through customs.
With that crowd of people there’s no way Covid isn’t spreading in there.
They evidence in China was certainly that it is not possible to quarantine within a portion of a home. Relatively early in the lockdown phase they started pulling fevers out of houses, including against their will. Other methods work, in Korea for example, but the point is something must be done.
Also discouraging - how many people are still happy to go out to bars. I am a strong believer that no one, anywhere, is capable of self-isolating at any duration, especially if they see their neighbors shirking. One area that government intervention is necessary, if true social distancing is deemed necessary.
Read the post further down in this tweet thread:
I’m certainly not qualified to give advice. I’d assume they’ve talked to their doctor. (Although, in my case I’ve only seen my PCP a handful of times), so I’d personally seek the advice of other doctors I know, and my local health authorities.
One thing to keep in my mind, is that the square ft/meters per person in the US is 4 times bigger than China, and substantially larger than other countries except for Canada or Australia. It’s probably practical to give your cousin her own bedroom, and bathroom, clean the shit out of the rest of the house, where it wouldn’t be in place like Wuhan, China.
Canuck
3907
One of the lucky ones? Or does she have other complications?
She’s 50ish and in generally good health so I don’t believe she has any complications.
Today it was announced that an Orlando airport TSA agent just screened positive for Covid19. I also heard from a nurse that a 60 year old man at an Altamonte Springs (suburb of Orlando) hospital was released while positive. I assume he wasn’t critical and was told to self quarantine but we all know how that goes…
jsnell
3910
The assumption of 90% of cases being so mild that they don’t get reported at all seems quite optimistic. Korea is testing very aggressively and state that they believe they’re catching even the mild cases. But after normalizing for age, their CFR is fairly close to the Chinese and Italian numbers.
My Danish is a bit rusty, but it seems like their only reasoning for the 10% number is that it’s the case for flu epidemics. That seems pretty flimsy.
Quaro
3911
It is possible to avoid infection, there are documented COVID cases where someone in the family basically wore a mask very often and did avoid it by being very careful. I think the biggest source of infection would shared bathrooms. If you there is more than one in the house, keep them 100% separate. I don’t know how feasible it would be with a single bathroom for a household though. And keep the windows as open as you can, in bathrooms and in general.
(If you’re seeing this twice, it was in the wrong thread (though, who knows, really) for a minute. And then undeleted because I forgot to copy&paste. Sorry for being an idiot.)
“Funny” story happened in Portugal. A woman and her daughter were reported as leaving quarantine while waiting for test results in the hospital. It turns out, they were given permission to move and wait in the hospital near their residence instead by the doctor, and it was just a case of miscommunication. They ended up being cleared.
Not so funny detail, they were in a city 200km away, hopefully with a good reason. Thankfully, we have privacy laws and the public has no idea who they were.
Interesting data for Australia. Now shows our primarily source of infection is travel from the US, although community transmission is now ramping up. So far here in the Northern Territory we have zero cases in the wild. Although our population here is low, I can’t see that lasting.
Alstein
3915
I think it’s gonna start climbing (though mass shootings won’t be as deadly due to no masses to shoot) as people start to lose patience.
Already seeing co-workers grumpy because of no sports.
You don’t have to go very far, it was about half the people on this board…
