An expert on NYTimes the Daily podcast a few days ago talked about this. China put everyone into one of 3 buckets: ICU, Hospitalized but not ICU, and everyone else was mild. Mild could include pneumonia, but something that you could survive without hospitalization. Mild could leave you sick for a month. Mild ranges from almost asymptomatic to wishing you were in a hospital, but all the beds are full and doctors know you can pull through, though you’re horribly misearable the whole time.
The expert mentioned that he really resented that he’d repeated the term “mild” that was in the Chinese reporting without further explanation, as it leads to an extremely skewed understanding.
Ephraim
4021
And my 9 year old daughter will have your back. She’s of the exact same opinion. And she knows 'em all…
vyshka
4022
What is sad, is the thought popped into my head last night that he would try to control access to a vaccine. What a piece of shit.
jsnell
4023
Switzerland jumped from 1350 to 2200 cases today. On a population of 8M. Thisisfine.gif
The only comfort seems is that at least some of this has to be due to better testing than other European countries, just based on the number of deaths.
Mike DeWine has been ahead of the curve and basically blowing off the advice of a lot of other party leaders:
Carryout/delivery staying open. But no more large gatherings of people.
Definitely the higher the cases the harder to test. Here in Spain the region of Madrid has given data, so this is interesting. We have 3700 confirmed cases and 3600 further cases that have been told to self isolate but have not been included in the overall number.
Most likely almost everybody who notices mild symptoms is calling, so it looks our real acknowledges cases it probably double the official 8k.
I certainly am no DeWine fan, but he’s mostly right here. Of course a Fox news drone in the office here (who never STFU, btw) just said “MARTIAL LAW WITHIN TEN DAYS, MARK MY WORDS!”.
Pretty tired of this idiocy.
JB Pritzker in Illinois just followed suit. Restaurants and bars to close tonight for dine-in service.
Worth watching just for a (well qualified) recount of the experience.
Given the curve, this may not be far from the truth in some US regions, and fully appropriate.
#canthappenhere
Not impossible, but in this case it’s just a dumb blowhard.
Teiman
4033
Here in spain we have a state of emergency declared that put all the power on the hands of the governement. So I could see something like that for USA. But will always follow existing laws and guidelines, I believe.
Timex
4034
Some asshole in Kentucky has it, refused to self quarantine, and has been arrested.
Went down the pub to provide some free consulting to my brother on a project. This is a well-loved neighborhood pub that would be bumpin’ all through the PM on a not-awful Sunday in March, and they informed us they were closing at 4pm. Goddamn.
(Don’t worry, I didn’t spit on anyone.)
Gov closed the schools. Starting Tuesday we’re on whatever passes for remote learning for a first-grader until further notice. FML.
I would imagine one of the reasons for restaurants and bars to shutter for in-person service is the upcoming St. Patrick’s Day holiday. I think the crowds getting a jump on St. Pat’s over the weekend surprised officials in major cities, and if they let the bars stay open on Tuesday, well, people are going to pack in there like crazy.
Scrax
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There were at least two different Irish Restaurants/Bars in Richmond holding big black parties yesterday. Cops were present but not dismissing the crowds. The Governor only put into place the 100 person max gathering limit today tho so…
Also
Teiman
4038
I think is still to see what is the real health service muscle of USA. Is a rich country, with a lot of smart people. They are not in a good start, politically, economycally, socially… but the beds exist, the ICU beds exist, the manufacture power I don’t know… is on china, but maybe some of that is retained. Maybe USA surprise us dealing with the crisis better than most smart people expect.
Didn’t that survey of all countries for pandemic preparedness have the US pretty high? I guess it must have been based on hardware, rather than policy. Maybe things can swing into action quickly once the fear of God is DC and state capitals.
