4843

That’s big enough for an intro earthquake. Hope everyone out there is okay.

Been thinking about this as it relates to stockpiling and panic buying. Many parts of the country are about to start their hurricane / tornado / wildfire / flood season. I hope people are giving some thought as to how they’d weather a compound disaster with emergency services already stretched thin.

4844

Things look okay so far. Some damage in downtown SLC from what I hear and a bunch of power outages, which sucks when people are trying to quarantine and work from home. Epicenter was about 3 miles from my house, looks like.

4845

I feel like a major natural disaster would be the tipping point towards social anarchy in some places. You throw a disastrous hurricane at the southwest or a big earthquake that causes a lot of destruction somewhere in CA and then supply lines actually do start to fall apart.

Let’s all hope for a mild spring and summer.

4846

Iberia is probably going to get a bailout, but for people facing similar situations with other, smaller/non-flag carrier airlines, keep pushing to get the refund ASAP, because there’s a fair chance the money will all be gone in a few weeks.

4847

Immunity also may make people good candidates to donate serum / blood later, China had some success with that.

4848

And the US/Canada border is officially going to be closed to all “non-essential” traffic.

4849

Hm, I have a trip to Canada from UK with BA in August. I’m happy to not go, protect my family from ourselves etc, but they are non-refundable flights, bought all way back in december. I’m assuming if they won’t fly you because of travel restrictions, someone reimburses me, the airline or travel insurance? I guess it’s also a bit weird since I’m a CAN citizen, so would a ban ever apply to me? And as an ILR permanent resident of UK, that’s also ok to return? What about non-citizen wives? So many questions.

4850

Sorry to hear that. Happy they are good and well.
Take care.

4851

I’d start making calls starting with the airline.

4852

There’s a chance the flight will get cancelled if things are still bad then, in which case they’d credit you (if not going bankrupt).

4853

Yes, it’s probably better to wait for them to cancel, it puts you in a stronger position to get a credit or refund.

4854
4855

yeah, that’s my ‘hope’, that the onus is one them. Worst case (for my pocketbook) is if I don’t want to go to protect my mom / wife’s dad, but they’re letting flights / citizens in, in which case I hurry up and get the whole family infected two months before, to go with immunity. Little bit of gallows humor there, been using it at work a lot too.

4856

I thought Canada’s ban applied to citizens, at least for symptomatic people.

4857

Regarding men being more affected, I would also guess that the reality is men are just in greater contact with other people, particularly in parts of the world where the more “traditional” role of the man being the worker and the woman being the stay-at-home is still in effect.

I’m thinking that the greater likelihood that men go into work and have greater contact with a wider range of people could have some effect.

Arguing against this, of course, would be why the man isn’t then bringing it back home and infecting his family anyway (which seems to be a big cause of spread, inter-family).

4858

This is not the case in Denmark. 47.4% of the work force is female, like most of the Nordic countries.

4859

Thanks for that post.

While Ioanniddis was sanguine about the effects of the virus, he seemed unreasonably alarmist about the possible effects of the economic dislocation. I would think there are some reasonable statistics about the health and mortality consequences of economic contractions which might have given his article a little more weight.

4860

I bet Canada is breathing a sigh of relief.

4861

Most think of themselves first as well and want to have their fun. Plus, the news is telling them if they get it they will be fine, etc.

I will be dealing with this soon. The GF’s daughter is coming home from college this weekend. She will pass through three airports and ride on two planes. She should really self-quarantine, but I know she wants to get together with her group of friends who are also home. The last thing I want is about 6-8 teens coming over to the house. I may have to be the bad guy here.

4862

I fear my parents (in their late 70s) are not taking this seriously enough. They go out to eat a few times a week, and it’s the center of their social life (with another older couple and a legion of staff, who tell my interested folks all about their lives). One of the restaurants they eat in sits people quite close together. I pointed this out to them, and Mom said, Well, there’s been no infection reported there, as though diners weren’t passing through all the time. They aren’t ignorant or misled; they just don’t want to sacrifice this activity.