KevinC
5045
The Johns Hopkins site, likely.
Realizing those numbers could have been before New York added another 1000 not too long ago.
I went out with my dogs for a walk today, and the nearby park had 40-50 people. There was a group playing basketball, there were lots of people jogging, lots of people right up close to each other. Some older guy who also has a dog that I seem to always run into walked up to me to talk, and I had to do the “Have you heard about social distancing? Could you stay where you are and talk?” He responded that of course he did, and talked my ear off for a few minutes until I could escape.
While he was doing that, tons of people were walking by, happily walking within a foot of people on the other side of the path, etc. As soon as I escaped this older gentleman, he walked RIGHT UP to someone and did his close talking in their face 2 feet away thing, and the other person…just didn’t mind.
There were some people practicing social distancing and we happily made room for each other. And the positive part of me wants to think that maybe all the people I see are (mostly) the brainless people who can’t practice social distancing, and I’ll never see the smart people because they aren’t coming outside.
Or we’re doomed, because while we’ve cancelled work, and the gym, and school, it’s finally getting warm in new england, and that DEMANDS that everyone go outside. Everyone’s treating this like a snow day instead of a god damn emergency. I fully expect this to change in a few weeks when they begin to see the effects of their current actions [aka: why are people suddenly dying?]
From what I can tell in In 2017 Italy had 3.18 hospital beds per capita and in 2016 the US had 2.6 beds per capita.
At least in 2013 (latest I could find) only 8 states had a higher hospital bed per capita than italy. Italy is half the size of Texas, which has a hospital bed per capita of 1.81 (per 1k), though it’s larger land size than a lot of other states (double the size of Mississippi and Florida).
To me, all of this combined with vastly uneven quality of care does not bode well.
Don’t forget there’s very strong math modeling right now that the true number of cases (that aren’t measured) are about 10x what we’re observing. MA currently has 218 cases, but the estimated true number of cases is somewhere around 1900-5800.
Below, the grey bars are the true cases, and the yellow bars the observed ones. We’re gonna see 'em soon, and when we do putting on the breaks ain’t gonna do shit for 2 weeks, as that damage is already baked in.
KevinC
5050
You described my last trip to the grocery store. No hand sanitzer anywhere in sight (I’m not talking to buy, I’m talking to use). The first thing that greeted me when I walked into the store was two people in their 60’s who I assume where neighbors. When they saw each other they said hi and gave each other a hug. Then a third person came over and joined the group hug. No one was distancing at all. I felt like a friggin’ weirdo trying to play Frogger with all the other shoppers trying to kamikaze into me or squeeze past me. As I’m waiting in line to check out, I see a woman at the register next to me yawn into her hand before using her debit card and entering her PIN into the machine.
So yeah, I left there thinking “we’re fucked”.
Coronavirus Spring Break = the new Heavy Metal Parking Lot
Tman
5052
The best comment:
And Bernie wonders why his youth vote didn’t show up.
You couldn’t pay me to fly right now, but it seems like it’s business as usual for a lot of people.
LeeAbe
5055
Even when it’s not the end of the world, the best time to go to the grocery store is 6am. Mostly empty, everything is stocked, etc.
“When I was young and foolish, I was young and foolish”
George W Bush.
Timex
5057
Remember in jaws when they are trying to get them to close the beaches and the mayor won’t?
Do we really want any of those people voting anyway?
Grocery stores around me are reserving opening hours for people over 60 so they can practice some social avoidance.
magnet
5061
Those are per 1000, not per capita.
More important, people dying with coronavirus don’t need a hospital bed. They need an ICU bed.
A hospital bed is a convenient place for doctors to examine and medicate you. An ICU bed is where they keep the ventilators.
From your link, the USA has 34.7 ICU beds per 100,000 whereas Italy has 12.5.
My flatmate was coughing earlier. But he says he doesn’t have a fever or high temperature so it’s just a normal cough, whatever that means.
I of course am looking at in in the context of how infectious this thing apparently is, and I flat out told him, dude, you’ve got the virus, you should be self isolating, have you planned to do that?
And no of course he hasn’t.
It’s horrible to see our future leaders in science, politics, and technology have this attitude!
Yep, Target here is restricted to “at-risk people” for the first hour every day.
He should be self isolating until he knows he doesn’t have the virus. Not that that’ll happen.
